uncut dogs
Adam Stephanides · 22 May 2002, 15:05
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From: Adam Stephanides <adamsteph at earthlink.net> Subject: Re: (urth) uncut dogs Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 10:05:02 -0500 Message-ID: <urth-v0205-1046 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0205/1046.txt.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable on 5/21/02 10:46 AM, Andy Robertson at andywrobertson at clara.co.uk wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Andre-Driussi" <mantis at siriusfiction.com> >> No, hartshorn/Quartet are right (agreeing with Scribners hc), Ace is in >> error (add that one to the "Many Pink Butterflies" instead of "Mary Pink >> Butterflies" error). >=20 >> "they would tie, the two of them" (227) >=20 >=20 > Well, back where we were then. >=20 > Why "tie"? And how/why is this specifically linked to being uncircumcise= d? The OED gives as one meaning of "tie" for a dog and a bitch to be linked during copulation. But it's still strange. Marsch is an anthropologist; you'd expect him to have read about uncircumcised peoples, and to be aware that "tying" doesn't happen. And why does he anticipate being especially enraged by seeing Victor and his girl "tied," as opposed to just having sex? As for the significance of Victor's non-circumcision in itself, here's one theory. In anthropology, the Australian aborigines are known for rigorous male initiation rites at puberty, which generally involve circumcision. If the same is true of the Free People, then Victor's non-circumcision might be one reason he thinks of himself as a child. --Adam --=20
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