Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is the

James Jordan · 10 Jun 2002, 14:56 · from urth-v0206.mbox · original

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From: James Jordan <jbjordan4 at cox.net>
Subject: Re: (urth) Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is the
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:56:39 -0500
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At 11:45 AM 6/9/2002 -0500,Steve S. wrote:

>The lapsing of the church and of the sacraments would be more troubling,
>theologically, I agree.  But it hasn't necessarily happened in Wolfe's
>world.  For one thing, the race of mankind has spread to other stars.  That
>the Christian church may have died on one planet would not preclude the
>possibility that a remnant remains.  Part of what Wolfe is writing about is
>a society caught up in idolatry and the breaking in of the Outsider (as a
>thief) into that world; the lapse of the church into idolatry and the
>diminution of the Outsider's role in the culture's worldview is an compone=
nt
>of that endeavor.

         I think that's reasonable, but also...


>Don't know if I have anything to add to your point about the flood.  Maybe,
>the idea is that the world was already destroyed, had run down, and the New
>Sun is its rebirth, not destruction.

.... remember that Urth is a universe-cycle before ours. These events=20
predate the promise to Noah by about 50 billion years maybe. We don't know=20
that such a promise had been given to any Urnoah in Urth history. Nor,=20
returning to the first point, do we have to assume that God managed Briah=20
precisely the same way He manages our cycle.

Nutria



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