Loyal to the Group of Seventeen

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes · 11 Jun 2002, 15:31 · from urth-v0206.mbox · original

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From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <ddanehy at siebel.com>
Subject: (urth) Loyal to the Group of Seventeen
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 08:31:37 -0700
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Matthew asks:

> > >Has anyone mentioned this is a response/riposte to Orwell=20
> and Nuspeak?

and Hartshorn replies:

> It is obvious that it is derived from 1984 and Nuspeak.   The=20
> idea that the Ascian's war may be derived from the eternal war
> between Oceana/Eastasia/Eurasia is a good one.

Ummm ... well, maybe a little, but the speech patterns of the=20
Ascians are _not_ derived from Newspeak. They are a clear and
luminous reference to the habit that was for many years common=20
in mainland China and among certain groups of "liberal"=20
"intellectuals" in the US, of constantly quoting from the sayings
of Mao Zedong -- or Mao Tse-Tung, as it was then spelled -- and
treating such quotes as the final authority, in much the way some
fundamentalist Christians treat quotes from Scripture.

--Blattid

--=20

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