Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is theHoly Trinity
James Wynn · 12 Jun 2002, 13:56
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From: "James Wynn" <crushtv at HotPOP.com> Subject: RE: (urth) Some problems if the Pancreator/Outsider is theHoly Trinity Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:56:23 -0500 Message-ID: <urth-v0206-1213 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0206/1213.txt.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I really would NOT place a lot of weight on this particular statement of Wolfe's in the quoted interview. It's just too difficult to reconcile the other clues. I think there is no doubt when Wolfe was writing this FUTURISTIC novel he imagined it in the future. I think the following statement is more explanatory: "I was toying with those ideas, I think, rather than trying to make sense of them. Is our resurrection going to be in another universal cycle? Well, yes, maybe it is. I don't know. We don't know what is really meant by the world coming to an end, and God rolling up the sky like a carpet and all that. It is all picturesque language. Figurative language to try to give a general idea to an audience that would not be capable of understanding the actuality. And I am not sure we are more capable of understanding that actuality than they were. It is like the Genesis story. I don't believe in a literal apple and I don't believe that literally biting into the fruit had this effect but if you have to explain to a bunch of primitives how men differ from animals and where men went wrong in differing from animals, this is a pretty good way to do it." "Toying" is an important word here. Based on the Wolfe answer I'm quoting here, I'd say trying to make tBotNS fit with Christian theology in every way (or most ways) is like trying to create a perpetual motion machine or trying to rectify general relativity with quantum mechanics: It seems so logical and straightforward, but then.... -- Crush ------------------------------------------------------ Matthew said: But no, placing tBotNS in a distant past distresses me. It's too complex. ----------------------------------------------------------------- James Jordan wrote: >JJ: This universe that you sought in Briah are part of it. Is that our >universe? Or is that a universe that resurrected saints have set up in the >world to come as part of the cities that they made? >GW: No. I thought of it as a long past universe. Something that we are >repeating rather than something that we are. > --=20
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