names + Typhon
matthew.malthouse · 21 Jun 2002, 12:23
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From: matthew.malthouse at guardian.co.uk Subject: Re: (urth) names + Typhon Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2002 13:23:46 +0100 Message-ID: <urth-v0206-1280 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0206/1280.txt.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20/06/2002 18:35:31 maa32 wrote: >Mr. Borski has recently made the point that Typhon's name is mythological, >implying that he should be of alien stock rather than simply of "other", >urthly origin. However, aren't there mythological names, like Talos, that >reveal traits rather than place of origin? Talos is a mechanical man, but he >is not necessarily extra-terrestrial - indeed, he is from Urth. It does imply >that he is "other" - and while I CAN see a slight difference between >Baldanders and the mythological names, I don't find the presence of a >mythological name as complete evidence that Typhon must be extraterrestrial - >rather, it could be an assumed name that shows his difference and superiority >to his "normal" subjects (much as Karol Wojtyla would choose the name John >Paul II or Bullingbrook would name himself Henry IV - it is common to choose a >name of distinction to establish the authority of "otherness", and insinuate >that you are of uncommon stock). Just a note - I think we need slightly more >than a mythological name to definitely brand someone as Alien, since I don't >think all the characters with mythological names are from the outer reaches, >especially as evidenced by Dr. Talos. Of the word alien do you mean "non-human" or "not of Urth". Typhon's story suggests that he is human but not of earth. Talos is of Urth but created (by Baldanders). And that put's me in mind of a third distinction. Are the heirodules not created (in the hey, look what I cooked up rather than the created He them, male and female kind)? Matthew --=20
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