bad silk?
Seth Lombardi · 13 Jul 2002, 06:24
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From: "Seth Lombardi" <sethlombardi at hotmail.com> Subject: (urth) bad silk? Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2002 01:24:26 -0500 Message-ID: <urth-v0207-1348 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0207/1348.txt.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The current talk about the nature of suicide has me rather baffled. You're=20 saying that Silk did not in fact attempt suicide, he simply wailed at his=20 forearms with a knife, as resulting from a complete and overwhelming despai= r=20 of life? I'm no psychologists, and I don't claim to be an expert on suicide, but thi= s=20 seems to be rather close to what I'd define as a suicide attempt. Many,=20 many, suicide attempts are unsuccesfull. The man's taking a knife to his=20 forearms; there's a lot of instincts to overcome no matter how adamnt the=20 subject is about taking their life. On the other side of the coin, take a=20 look at your forearms and tell me that you could take a knife to them=20 without your own death being at least one of the possible results in=20 confused, reeling mind. I can't, but that may be because I have pretty=20 skinny and, I suppose, delicate forearms. I guess to sum up what I'm trying to say here is that cutting into one's=20 forearm is such an extreme act that it is both telling in that you would=20 have to pretty darned crazy and suicidal to do it, but at the same time so=20 paiful an against our instincts that the fact that Silk failed is totaly=20 acceptable. He didn't have a bridge, or a gun, or a bottle of pills handy.=20 Otherwise I think perhaps the story would have ended there. Ah, but that reminds me; where is the Azoth during all this? I think it was=20 with Mint, which if true backs up my feelings. If it was in their house,=20 then that's a big strike against it. I'm sorry, but I don't have my books=20 handy at the moment. I'd also like to cast my vote for the most negative possible estimation of=20 Haycinth available. I know Horn takes an incredibly dim view of humanity in=20 general, but either she did the crap (exposing herself, etc.) he describes=20 in the afterword to The Book of the Long Sun or she didn't, and I don't=20 think he's lying. That sounds like someone it wold be hell to live with, an= d=20 though Silk puts a brave face on his pain, I think it's still there. If Sil= k=20 wasn't at least partialy to blame for her death, then I don't really have=20 any interpretation for "Though trodden beneath the shepard's heel, the wild=20 haycinth blooms on the ground." It is also telling that this supernatural phrase is the culmination of=20 Remora's talk with Slik about his suicide attempt. But I think Steve alread= y=20 pointed this out. ***************************** Seth Lombardi sethlombardi at hotmail.com http://pages.prodigy.net/nlom/blogg.html AIM: melombardi "Two faces are alike; neither is funny by itself, but side by side their=20 likeness makes us laugh" -Pascal _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com --=20
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