Severian & Christ, Wolfe &
Peter Stephenson · 13 Mar 1998, 09:37
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From: Peter Stephenson <pws at ifh.de> Subject: Re: (urth) Severian & Christ, Wolfe & Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:37:38 +0100 Message-ID: <urth-v0008-0623 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0008/0623.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Posted from URTH, a mailing list about Gene Wolfe's New Sun and other work= s] Tony Ellis wrote: > There -are- parallels between this scene and Christ before Pilate,=20 > but I feel it's too lightweight for the significance you're giving it. There are certainly no major thematic links, I didn't want to imply a deep relationship. > Yeat's world-view (as represented by his gyres and masks) was > very dualistic, and I would say that there we have a crucial=20 > difference between him and Wolfe. Wolfe's Urth universe > is ultimately Unary: there is really only one side, and everyone > is on it - they just don't all realise it. <g> Certainly there are differences of this kind. I would say, though, that when looking for particular themes this isn't going to worry the reader --- even the careful reader --- too much of the time (which really amounts to your last remark). In Yeats the oppositions tend mostly to be night/day, male/female, living/dead and so on. In Wolfe there are also such complexities: dying sun and white fountain, cold and warm futures, death and resurrection; I would tentatively say, perhaps even a stronger sense of good and evil. You don't often find the directness of Severian vs. Typhon or Agia in Yeats, as regards ordinary humans at any rate --- but I suppose that's in the nature of lyric poetry. Peter *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/
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