Out of the office (was Re: Digest from urth@urth.net)

Ian Lamont · 03 Sep 2002, 12:59 · from urth-v0209.mbox · original
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From: Ian Lamont <ian_lamont at harvard.edu>
Subject: (urth) Out of the office (was Re: Digest from  urth at urth.net)
Date: Tue, 03 Sep 2002 08:59:04 -0400
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At 07:56 PM 8/23/02 -0400, you wrote:
>Message-ID: <000901c24a69$721697e0$5ef9c518@robertbo>
>From: "Robert Borski" <rborski at charter.net>
>To: <urth at urth.net>
>Subject: Re: (urth) The Coldhouse Prank
>Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 00:53:35 -0500
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>Stone Ox writes:
>
> > Robert Borski argues quite eloquently that Ted Singer's father is the
>victim
> > in the coldhouse prank.  I don't think this can be right, because the
>victim
> > lived in a boarding house, was locked in on Friday, and nobody noticed he
>was
> > missing until he was discovered on Monday.  If the victim had had a wife
>or
> > girlfriend, surely he would have been discovered sooner.
>
>But look who imparts this information about the weekend tragedy and the
>boarding house connection: Dan French, who, not having been a factory
>employee at the time, is simply repeating the sanitized version of the story
>as it's been spun down through the years and perhaps even through
>semi-official channels, since there's been a coverup. (I do, however, and
>for obvious reasons, like the notion that the victim died on Friday.) He
>doesn't remember the name of the victim and is completly unaware there is an
>even more sinister side to the entire episode, with a lone person being
>responsible for the victim's death. As Den also reminds us earlier, such
>stories have a way of becoming "both faded and embroidered by time," which
>results in a further blurring of the details. And lastly when Dan French
>tells the story of the sidhe, it deviates from the traditional in several
>respects.
>
>In other words I think there's plenty of reason to doubt his version of the
>story.
>
>Robert Borski
>
>
>
>
>
>--
>From: matthew.malthouse at guardian.co.uk
>To: urth at urth.net
>Message-ID: <80256C1E.004D99D7.00 at ldnmta01.guardian.co.uk>
>Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 14:42:15 +0100
>Subject: Re: (urth) PEACE: 3 Misses
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>
>On 20/08/2002 06:08:34 Roy C. Lackey wrote:
>
> > I can make nothing of "Tyler".
>
>Not having read Peace I have no idea if there's any relevance but the word
>can mean door or gate keeper.  Archaic and obsolete except in Masonic
>Lodges where the additional meaning of keeping out the uninitiated applies
>and Tyler is a formal position. To tyle the lodge; bar the doors assured
>that only the aurhorised are within.
>
>The more prosaic meaning being a tiler, one who makes, provides or lays
>(roof) tiles.  The "i" spelling is prfered to the "y" after about 1670
>although the "y" remains more common as a name.
>
> From that a cat that frequents roofs.  A sneak-thief or burgular.
>
>Obscurly; also a c17 shoplifter.
>
>Is that of any help?
>
>
>Matthew
>
>
>
>--
I am on vacation during the last week of August. I will get back to you 
after I return on Labor Day.

Thanks,

Ian Lamont
Assistant Web Site Manager
Harvard Alumni Affairs and Development Office
124 Mount Auburn Street
Cambridge, MA 02138
Tel: (617) 495-8183
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<x-html>At 07:56 PM 8/23/02 -0400, you wrote:
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From: "Robert Borski" <rborski at charter.net>
To: <urth at urth.net>
Subject: Re: (urth) The Coldhouse Prank 
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2002 00:53:35 -0500
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Stone Ox writes:

> Robert Borski argues quite eloquently that Ted Singer's father
is the
victim
> in the coldhouse prank.  I don't think this can be right,
because the
victim
> lived in a boarding house, was locked in on Friday, and nobody
noticed he
was
> missing until he was discovered on Monday.  If the victim
had had a wife
or
> girlfriend, surely he would have been discovered 
sooner.

But look who imparts this information about the weekend tragedy and
the
boarding house connection: Dan French, who, not having been a
factory
employee at the time, is simply repeating the sanitized version of
the story
as it's been spun down through the years and perhaps even
through
semi-official channels, since there's been a coverup. (I do,
however, and
for obvious reasons, like the notion that the victim died on
Friday.) He
doesn't remember the name of the victim and is completly unaware
there is an
even more sinister side to the entire episode, with a lone person
being
responsible for the victim's death. As Den also reminds us earlier,
such
stories have a way of becoming "both faded and embroidered by
time," which
results in a further blurring of the details. And lastly when Dan
French
tells the story of the sidhe, it deviates from the traditional in
several
respects.

In other words I think there's plenty of reason to doubt his version
of the
story.

Robert Borski





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On 20/08/2002 06:08:34 Roy C. Lackey wrote:

> I can make nothing of "Tyler".

Not having read Peace I have no idea if there's any relevance but
the word
can mean door or gate keeper.  Archaic and obsolete except in
Masonic
Lodges where the additional meaning of keeping out the uninitiated
applies
and Tyler is a formal position. To tyle the lodge; bar the doors
assured
that only the aurhorised are within.

The more prosaic meaning being a tiler, one who makes, provides or
lays
(roof) tiles.  The "i" spelling is prfered to the
"y" after about 1670
although the "y" remains more common as a name.

 From that a cat that frequents roofs.  A sneak-thief or
burgular.

Obscurly; also a c17 shoplifter.

Is that of any help?


Matthew



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Tel: (617) 495-8183
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