God in the Machine

matthew.malthouse · 10 Oct 2002, 10:37 · from urth-v0210.mbox · original

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From: matthew.malthouse at guardian.co.uk
Subject: Re: (urth) God in the Machine
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:37:49 +0100
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On 09/10/2002 21:33:30 James Jordan wrote:

>         Some interesting stuff here, but I have to correct one item
before
>I leave the country for 3 weeks. The notion that the fall of Adam was =3D
a
>good thing since apart from it he would not have acquired a moral sens=3D
e
>will not stand up to the way the Biblical writers use the
>phrase  "knowledge of good and evil." The idea of a "felicitious fall"=3D
 is
>an old heresy in Christendom, though an important piece of Mormon
theology.

And a persistant one:

   Adam lay ybounden,
   Bounden in a bond,
   Foure thousand winter
   Thought he nat to lang;
   And alle was for an apple,
   An apple that he tok,
   As clerk=3DEBs finden
   Wretten in hires bok.

   Ne had one apple taken been,
   The apple taken been,
   Ne had never Our Lady
   A been Heavenes Queen.
   Bless=3DE8d be the time
   That apple tak=3DE8n was.
   Therefore we moun singen:
   Deo gratias!

That's 15th Century.

Matthew
=3D

--=20

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