Quetzal and Noah's Ark

James Jordan · 25 Nov 2002, 23:46 · from urth-v0211.mbox · original

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From: James Jordan <jbjordan4 at cox.net>
Subject: RE: (urth) Quetzal and Noah's Ark
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 17:46:11 -0600
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God said to Noah, "Build me an ark."
         Typhon said to Quetzal, "build me an ark." I don't think so. No=20
reason to think Quetzal was on location.
         So how's this? Typhon took over Piaton and directed him to build=20
an ark. God wanted a human being, made of flesh, to build the Ark. Typhon=20
needed a body so that he/he could build his ark.
         Neat, but I don't think so. The analogy breaks down too quickly.
         Typhon is both God and Noah. Noah went on the ark with his wife=20
and sons and their wives. Typhon goes on his ark as Pas, with with and=20
family. That's the parallel and analogy.
         We'll get farther recognizing that Noah's Ark is a traditional=20
symbol of the Church, a place where the whole old creation is preserved for=20
a new creation to come. Common enough, and surely part of Wolfe's=20
background (unlike some weird Mormon website). Starcrosser should be=20
compared and contrasted with the Ship that carried Severian to Yesod.=20
Everything "spiritual" about Typhon's ark is an inversion, a negative=20
image, of the Church, since idolatry is a main theme, really THE main=20
theme, of the Long Sun quartet. Starcrosser is an anti-ark that the=20
Outsider decides to invade and save because of His love for human beings.=20
The Outsider converts the Plan of Pas into HIS plan, and subverts the=20
"plan" of Quetzal into His own larger Plan. Typhon is just an unwitting=20
pawn in the Outsider's huge purpose -- just as Satan is just a pawn in the=20
purpose of the Biblical God.
         That's the Big Picture, folks.

Nutria


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