DOORS: The Hero, The Otherworld, The Ending
cilluff1 at optonline.net · 16 Jan 2003, 14:41
· from urth-v0301.mbox · original
This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything
here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer
encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the
archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those
repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is
for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site,
so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.
From: "cilluff1 at optonline.net" <cilluff1 at optonline.net> Subject: Re: (urth) DOORS: The Hero, The Otherworld, The Ending Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:41:36 -0500 Message-ID: <urth-v0301-2664 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0301/2664.txt.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adam wrote: <<Klamm calls the hero "Herr Kay" because Klamm is a character from Kafka'= =3D s THE CASTLE, and the protagonist of that book is always referred to as K=3D2= E=3D I don't know why Klamm says K=3D2E "was myself also," though=3D2E (303, hc) = Nor=3D do I know why he calls K=3D2E "an old friend": in THE CASTLE Klamm never speaks = t=3D o K=3D2E, nor is there any hint that Klamm has any personal interest in K=3D2= E>>=3D The Kafka reference is straightforward, you are certainly right there, but= =3D Wolfe must have had something else in mind other than a thinly veiled (if veiled at all) reference to someone else's story=3D2E Without a doubt the names are an homage, but I think it doesn't go far enough simply to detect= =3D references to others' works in Wolfe's stories, and simply because it is a= =3D reference to Kafka doesn't mean there is a reason within TAD's universe fo= =3D r why Klamm calls him Herr Kay, or that TAD's Klamm is little more than a transplant to TAD's universe of Kafka's Klamm=3D2E =3D20 <<<Mantis's suggestion that Klamm is modelled on Kissinger is an intriguin= =3D g one, which hadn't occurred to me; but I would imagine Wolfe would be likel= =3D y to loathe Kissinger, both for being "soft on Communism" and for his amoral= =3D approach to foreign policy (the polar opposite of the Narrator's "statecraft" in TBOTSS)=3D2E>> Well, that critcism assumes that GW views Klamm sympathetically as he woul= =3D d not if Klamm=3D3DKissinger=3D2E Kissinger is soft on communism, and Klamm = is =3D soft on the matriarchal, paganist society of the goddess: perhaps GW views both= =3D as, and intended both to be, unsympathetic, soft characters=3D2E =3D20 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=3D2Ecom/ =3D2E --=20
An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net