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Spectacled Bear · 20 Jan 2003, 11:07 · from urth-v0301.mbox · original

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From: Spectacled Bear <spectacled.bear at pobox.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) I wonder...
Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 11:07:53 +0000
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At 10:35 2003-01-18, ArchD'Ikon Zibethicus wrote:
>>It includes the Inklings' work (Williams too)
>
>Finally!  Someone who remembers that Williams was there!  And this helps t=
o make my point a little clearer; in 'The Place of the Lion', Williams has =
- more-or-less, and speaking very loosely - certai
Platonic, surely?

>>I believe Wolfe is writing WITHIN that tradition.
>
>I don't know whether Mr. Wolfe's works fit neatly within a single framewor=
k.  From my reading of them, I would guess that he is indulging in speculat=
ive fiction

I think this is a very important thing to remember. "Speculative fiction"
and "framework" do not sit well together. "If Rules are a Framework for
the Mind, Why Should the Mind not Climb Right Out? writes the Sage of
Dissolution" - to quote another story with a confusing timeline!

I'm reading DOORS again for this discussion, and have reached ch 6.
In the first chapter, how come the buck-toothed doctor does not know
his name, but then says she has been worried about him? Has she just
been reading his file up till then? Or maybe the suggestion of a
retrospective change is right. Certainly he hasn't passed into another
world, because this all takes place within one conversation in one place.

What is "Malicapata"? An Otherworld disease, or something else?

Spectacled Bear.



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