Castaway with Spoilers
cilluff1 at optonline.net · 07 Feb 2003, 19:39
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From: "cilluff1 at optonline.net" <cilluff1 at optonline.net> Subject: RE: (urth) Castaway with Spoilers Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 14:39:24 -0500 Message-ID: <urth-v0302-2898 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0302/2898.txt.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Blattid writes, prompted by Mantis' gender comment: <<> So we are all in agreement that the narrator is female? Huh?!? Sputter!?!=3D20 You know, the question of what sex (or age, or race, or any=3D20 other physical characteristic) of the narrator never came up=3D20 in my mind=3D2E Not once=3D2E In two readings less than two days=3D20 apart =3D2E=3D2E=3D2E=3D20 So, uh, any particular reason for thinking this? (I don't think the "I love you" is intended that way=3D2E=3D2E=3D2E)>> I read it as a man, but the passage that tipped me that way really can go either way: "=3D2E=3D2E=3D2EI was sick of talking to the other guys in the= crew=3D =3D2E I'd been talking to them ever since I signed on, and I knew what they were going to say and the games they wanted to play and what all their jokes were=3D2E" I had read "the other guys in the crew" as modifying the narrator, making the narrator male, but it just as easily could refer to the stranded gent= =3D2E=3D =3D20 The "the games they wanted to play" line though does have sexual connotations to it, although that doesn't necessarily make the narrator female=3D2E I also thought her bawdy jokes of "was it as good for you as i= t=3D was for her=3D2E=3D2E=3D2E" seemed like a "guy thing" to say, but I guess t= hat i=3D s sexist of me and there's no reason a woman couldn't say that=3D2E I do however like idea of the narrator being female -- she is the antithesis of the Gaia, a nice duality=3D2E She is the embodiment of the w= h=3D ite world, anti-nature (White Goddess? I've never read that but it makes you think=3D2E=3D2E=3D2E), where not only do they not have trees but they try t= o mak=3D e the stranded gent forget about leaves entirely=3D2E He speaks to her, just as = h=3D e spoke to Gaia, because she is the embodiment of this anti-nature=3D2E She would like to know how to make him see the trees and hear the birds, but She cannot do that anymore=3D2E Incidentally, I do agree that the earth is "the" castaway as well the stranded gent, which is why I've described him (clumsily) as the stranded gent=3D2E Note that the title actually isn't "The Castaway," it is simply "Castaway" -- it refers to both earth and the man, so there is not any singular "the" castaway, and it also lets the word act as a verb -- the story is about how we castaway earth and nature, first on the planet itself, and then by pounding its memory out of this last natural man, a ma= =3D n whom we also castaway as having a "blown" mind=3D2E Note also that all tha= t=3D white "suck[ed] the color out of everything except blood=3D2E Only it neve= r=3D sucked the color out of him, and that made him special to me=3D2E" Well, i= f=3D he's alive, and has blood, why SHOULD it suck the color out of him? Also,= =3D why should that be special to her -- because she and everyone else no longer have blood or color=3D2E - Shell=3D20 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=3D2Ecom/ =3D2E --=20
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