Severian and final violence
maa32 · 14 Mar 2003, 14:10
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From: maa32 <maa32 at dana.ucc.nau.edu> Subject: (urth) Severian and final violence Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 07:10:17 -0700 Message-ID: <urth-v0303-3081 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0303/3081.txt.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Recently, the part in Urth of the New Sun where Severian kills the female=20 torturer has been brought up as evidence that Severian is still far from be= ing=20 Christ, or even the perfect Christian. That's a fine and correct statement, but I think there is a more important=20 thematic reason for it. If you look at the mythology invoked in The Book o= f=20 the New Sun, from "Eschatology and Genesis" with the evil Jalee to the Uapp= es=20 tribe of Brazil in the Botanical Gardens, you see that the evil deities are=20 overwhemlmingly female. Over and over, you see scheming females, whose onl= y=20 redemptive quality is their ability to birth children (thus the importance = of=20 Dorcas being Severian's grandmother and being one of the few positive femal= e=20 figures). Severian overcomes these females, and even the threat of=20 emasculation by reasserting a manly rule - it's not a distinctly Christian=20 figure, but a powerful male figure who eliminated the unnecessarily cruel=20 female element of the torturers. We all know that Ymar will abolish women=20 from the guild, probably because of his treatment at the hands of the woman=20 that Severian killed. That act in the past liberates Ymar to rid the guild= of=20 women, and frees Severian in the future from having to deal with them in hi= s=20 safe tower of masculine "might makes right but follow the pecking order"=20 guild. Note that there really isn't that much duplicitousness of scheming = in=20 the tower at the time of Severian - they just follow orders. I see that str= ike=20 as a final assertion of the masculine future that Severian wants to be rais= ed=20 in. And I think he only saves Agia because of his presentiments - he knows=20 that she will save him from Vodalus and certain death in Citadel of the=20 Autarch, because he's gone through the cycle before, so everything seems=20 familiar to him. Marc Aramini --=20
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