Jungle Garden
Yves Meynard · 17 Apr 2003, 00:42
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From: Yves Meynard <ymeynard at globetrotter.net> Subject: (urth) Jungle Garden Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 20:42:11 -0400 Message-ID: <urth-v0304-3201 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0304/3201.txt.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dan'l Danehy-Oakes writes: > I recall a while back there was an argument that the Jungle Garden > scene was connected somehow to the South America of roughly-our-time. > In fact, it must be Africa, because Isangoma -- or iSangoma or > isaNngoma -- is a Zulu title for a diviner. OK, but what about when Isangoma says: "[The Proud One's] breath is the mist that hides the infant uakaris=3D20 from the claws of the margay!" (p.160 in my Pocket edition of _Shadow_) =3D46rom http://ds.dial.pipex.com/agarman/margay.htm : The Margay, also known as the Long Tailed Spotted Cat, is similar in=3D20 appearance to the Ocelot - its body however is smaller, growing up two=3D20= =3D 25-27 inches and in comparison with the Ocelot, the margay displays=3D20 longer legs and tail. The range of the margay extends from Mexico down through Peru, parts of=3D2= 0=3D Paraguay to the northern areas of Argentina. =3D46rom http://www.animalinfo.org/species/primate/cacacalv.htm : The red uakari is a medium-sized monkey weighing about 4 kg (9 lb). [=3D85]= =3D20=3D The red uakari is found in flooded swamp forests of Amazonia in Brazil,=3D2= 0=3D Colombia and Peru. =3D46rom http://www.animalinfo.org/species/primate/cacamela.htm : The black uakari is found in the northern Amazon basin in Brazil,=3D20 Colombia and Venezuela. This seems to point rather strongly to a South-American context. Still, as Dan'l writes: > So I'm thinking that they don't come from the "real" > South Africa at all, but from the South Africa of jungle movies. Or more generally speaking, from the jungle country of jungle movies,=3D20 that obscenely fecund, oppressively green realm that seems firmly=3D20 rooted in our 20th-century subconscious, without any need for external=3D20= =3D validation -- or consistency. Yves Meynard --=20
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