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Jeff Wilson · 20 Apr 2003, 06:21 · from urth-v0304.mbox · original

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From: Jeff Wilson <jwilson at io.com>
Subject: Re: (urth) Moorcock
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 01:21:22 -0500
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> From:
> "Alice K. Turner" <aturner6 at nyc.rr.com>
>>>(As an aside, did anyone ever write worse about sex than Heinlein.
>>
>>Yep. Asimov. But not _much_ worse.
>>>My wife still won't believe that anyone could call nipples "those
>>>twin spiggots of desire" or claim that one woman's "nipples went
>>>spung").
>>
>>These are classic, aren't they ... Up there with "five minutes of
>>squelching noise."
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> Wrong. No one ever, ever, including hack porn writers, EVER, EVER wrote
> worse sex than Heinlein. With possibly the momentary exception of a
> long-forgotten 9-day wonder of the 60s or 70s called -The Harrad
> Experiment-. And I am something of an expert here. I should probably say,
> for members of this group, that IMO Sturgeon wrote bad sex too, though no=
t,
> by leagues, in the same abysmal class.

I don't find sprunging nipples to be an inappropriate idiom, and neither=20
did my ex-wife. The spiggots remark I will give you, but I find Clarke's=20
depiction of sex to be poorer storytelling than Heinlein's overall.

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Jeff Wilson - http://www.io.com/~jwilson


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