(TBOTN) Utter speculation

matthew.malthouse · 20 Jun 2003, 07:53 · from urth-v0306.mbox · original

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From: matthew.malthouse at guardian.co.uk
Subject: Re: (urth) (TBOTN) Utter speculation
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 08:53:10 +0100
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On 19/06/2003 20:42:13 James Wynn wrote:

>Michael Andre-Driussi said:
>> Fact: the citadel pre-dates the city, and the earliest name we have for=20
it
>> is the Old Port, iirc.  So it probably was one of the ports from which
>> people and materials where shuttled up to the Whorl (and that was
>> relatively late in history -- the city was . . . approaching, but not
>there
>> yet?
>
>Crush responds:
>If it's older name was "the Old Port", then there ought to be a "New=20
Port".

"earliest name _we_ have for it" Which we get on Severian's misplaced=20
return in time.

"Old" can simply mean it's been there a long time. By then it's redundant,=20
the ships have been grounded so long walls have been built between them=20
but it's know not have been a port and thet they are ships; something not=20
immediately obvious to the people in TBotNS.

If you must have a comparative perhaps the sea/river port that is Nessus=20
is "new"; at least it was still active in Severians time(s).

Matthew

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