Urth Net

← back to the conversation

memory Re: (urth) Heracles lesson

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes · 23 Jun 2003, 16:13 · from urth-v0306.mbox · original

This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site, so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.

From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <katbarx at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: memory Re: (urth) Heracles lesson
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 09:13:52 -0700
Message-ID: <urth-v0306-3522 at digest.urth.net>
X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0306/3522.txt.shtml
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


Mimosa,

Thanks; I've been meaning to read Luria for years.

And I hadn't thought about the possibility of a hippocampus injury. Duh. Bu=
t=20
that
would make the question about dreams all the more interesting, wouldn't it?

--Blattid.

>From: "sheila miguez" <albizia at feafaroth.org>
>Reply-To: urth at urth.net
>To: urth at urth.net
>Subject: memory Re: (urth) Heracles lesson
>Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 11:04:24 -0500
>
>On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 08:33:52 -0700, "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes"
><katbarx at hotmail.com> said:
> > In short: The injury to Latro's head seems to have created an inability
> > to
> > recall informaiton from long-term stores at some cognitive levels --=20
>some
> > fairly abstract cognitive levels; this is clearly an injury in the
> > "higher"
> > centers of the brain.
>
>It's been a while since I've taken the classes, but in some of my psyc
>classes
>we discussed the case study of a patient who had epilepsy so severe that
>they
>resorted to surgery on his hippocampus. I managed to pull up some info
>from google:
>
>http://thalamus.wustl.edu/course/limbic.html
>
><cite>
>The significance of the hippocampus is driven home by a famous patient
>named H.M. As part of an epilepsy surgery, doctors removed most of his
>medial temporal lobes. Since that surgery, in 1953, he has formed no new
>memories. He can remember his childhood and everything before the
>surgery, and he still has working memory and the ability to form
>procedural memories. You can have a normal, lucid conversation with him,
>but if you leave the room for a moment, when you return he will not
>remember you or the conversation. He has completely lost the ability to
>lay down declarative memory.
></cite>
>
>We discussed other patients in the class and studies done on them and how
>their
>learning had changed. I vaguely remember that they would do exercises
>where they
>wouldn't retain the memory of the exercise, but on latter trials their
>learning
>curves were improved.
>
>A condition that mimics this is Korsakoff's Syndrome which arises from
>extreme
>alcoholism. It produces lesions in that region of the brain. One of
>Oliver Sacks'
>books has a case study on it.
>
>If you want to read about memory, but the flip side, Luria has a case
>study about
>a man with eidetic memory _The Mind of a Mnemonist_. Luria has some
>interesting
>case studies.
>
>mimosa
>
>--

_________________________________________________________________
Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. =20
http://join.msn.com/?page=3Dfeatures/featuredemail


--=20




An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net