Arete questions

James Wynn · 24 Jun 2003, 20:27 · from urth-v0306.mbox · original

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From: "James Wynn" <the.wynns at usa.net>
Subject: Re: (urth) Arete questions
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 14:27:42 -0600
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Andrew Bollen ponders the brain splitting puzzles in SoA and SotM. In so =
doing he pondered:
"In the end, Hegisistratus certainly believes he has failed to deliver =
on his promise to Artemis; his attempts to fix the race so Latro would =
win have failed, and now the goddess will come for him."
  Crush responds:
  I have yet to get my fingers around the narrative and motives in the =
books. I'm even seriously considering Marc's theories about Ares and =
Achilles although I currently and still find them both unwieldy. I think =
I understand why Latro is like Ares and Acchilles, and I don't see why =
to favor these over the other paralells (Heracles, Theseus, Jason, =
Peleus, etc.)=20

  But to the point, there is one small issue that Andrew brings up that =
I think I understand. Latro kept his bargan with Artemis -- he raced. =
Hegisistratus' job was to **remind** Latro that he was to win. He failed =
to do that, so Latro won the favor of both Artemis and Hera, but =
Hegisistratus was "a dead man".

  Does this seem bizarre and arbitrary? It should. Consider that =
according to Robert Graves' model Gaia and Trivigante (the moon) are the =
same entity -- which Latro recognizes when he says that he feels at =
times that he is watching a play where the same actor puts on one mask =
and then another to no disconcertion among the audience. Consider that =
according to Graves, the full moon is the Virgin and the New Moon is the =
chthonic crone. Yet Kore (trans. "the Maiden") is both at once. While it =
is obvious to me that Wolfe is drawing from Graves, the problem is =
compounded with the question "what is Wolfe himself driving at here"? =
Every time I think I have my fingers around it, it slips away again.

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  Crush responds:
  I have yet to get my fingers around =
the narrative=20
  and motives in the books. I'm even seriously considering Marc's =
theories about=20
  Ares and Achilles although I currently and still find them both =
unwieldy. I=20
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Peleus,=20
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once.=20
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