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maa32 · 05 Jul 2003, 07:02 · from urth-v0307.mbox · original

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From: maa32 <maa32 at dana.ucc.nau.edu>
Subject: (urth) stealing apu punchau
Date: Sat, 05 Jul 2003 00:02:03 -0700
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In response to Don's comments, I have a brief question about synchronicity.=
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So you don't think Severian is really the original Apu-Punchau?  See, I alw=
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saw him as both the original conciliator and the original Apu-Punchau (ie -=
 if=20
he didn't go back in time, those guys would never have lived).  The=20
description of Apu Punchau in Claw led me to believe that he was doing the=20
calling, which was facilitated by the Cumean, because she calls him a=20
vivimancer: somebody who calls to the living from the realms of the dead. =20
What else qualifies somebody to be a vivimancer?  Of course, I recognize th=
at=20
the two callings would have to be at different points, and that the Cumean =
and=20
Merryn are probably not present ... BUT there is that freaky, freaky dream =
of=20
Severian's in Citadel of the autarch where a big fountain and a river shows=
 up=20
and Merryn and the Cummean are screwing around (surely you remember the dre=
am=20
- it was the most confusing part of the four books for me).  Maybe that is =
a=20
clue - I should find that dream and read it over again - especially since i=
t=20
directly ties those witches with a flood and a waterfall.

Do you think the ship causes the long night?  And why did the moon get clos=
er=20
and become green?

I'm just trying to make sense of things ...  Don't take this idea too=20
seriously - I don't hold it as dearly as I maintain that Green is Urth, or=20
that Horn is in Babbie (two convictions which I will probably take to my=20
grave).  This is just testing the water.

Take care.
Marc Aramini



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