Crowley, then ...

Terry Lago · 28 Jul 2003, 16:31 · from urth-v0307.mbox · original

This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site, so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.

From: "Terry Lago" <tlago at chass.utoronto.ca>
Subject: RE: (urth) Crowley, then ...
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:31:07 -0400
Message-ID: <urth-v0307-3776 at digest.urth.net>
X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0307/3776.txt.shtml
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan'l Danehy-Oakes [mailto:katbarx at hotmail.com]=3D20
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:12 PM
To: urth at urth.net
Subject: Re: (urth) Crowley, then ...

Alga,

Thanks -- this is probably the single most helpful response of the many =3D
this

(as always)
generous group has provided. As it happens, I'm _not_ up on Victorian=3D20
faery-lore; my
attitude towards such has always run in the general direction of =3D
Tolkien's,=3D20
who generally
loathed it: though I don't go as far as he does in thinking Shakespeare =3D
made

a travesty
of Faerie. The books of "fairy" stories (as opposed to fairy-stories) I =3D
was=3D20
given as a child
either annoyed or terrified me. I preferred the latter, and still do. My =
=3D

taste wrt Faerie is
for the pre-Victorian, even pre-Elizabethan, style, a twilit and parlous =
=3D

place, the Faerie
of "Tam Lin" and "Thomas the Rhymer."

>It would be interesting if you told us what you did not like. I can =3D
tell=3D20
>you
>that I did not like the Russell Eigenblick subplot, though I admit that =
=3D
he
>managed to fit it into the conclusion better than I expected.

Well, to tell the truth, there was nothing I did not like, or at least=3D20
nothing I
disliked. It was just that I was disappointed; after all the =3D
commendations=3D20
of
Crowley in general and _Little, Big_ in particular by -- well, =3D
especially by

yourself
and Mantis, both of whose tastes I have come to respect very highly -- I =
=3D
was
expecting something blindingly revelatory, rather like the first time I =3D
read

_tBotNS_,
_The Silmarillion_, _The Moon is Down_, or _Carrion Comfort_. Instead I =3D
got
something ... pleasant but uncompelling.

The obvious point of comparison to Wolfe, I suppose, is that the writing =
=3D
is
quite dense in places -- _Little, Big_ took me quite a while to get =3D
through,
which was only compounded by its failing to grab me by the throat and =3D
make
me read it.

Shrug.

Certainly not enough to put me off Crowley, but enough to decide me not
to tackle the copy of _Aegypt_ that's been sitting on the shelves for I=3D20
don't
know how long. (Who was it that wanted a copy? We can talk.) =3D
_Especially_
if it's heavily dependent upon alchemy, a subject to which my general=3D20
reaction
has been "Life's just too short for this."

I think I'll try the collection, though. _Novelty_ I think.

--Blattid

It's been awhile since I read _Little, Big_ and I was relatively =3D
unimpressed
by it myself. (Though I do plan on re-reading it one of these days and =3D
see
how it fares.) I think in many ways you had (more or less) the 'right'
reaction to it though...at least in as much as it seems to me that =3D
Crowley
was more trying to do a novelistic equivalent to a tone-poem. I think he =
=3D
was
more trying to convey a mood, along with certain artistic ideas in the
'story' or a family and their tangled supernatural dealings.

As to _Aegypt_: I just finished reading it a few weeks back and I =3D
thoroughly
enjoyed it. I'm now wishing I could track down a copy of _Love and =3D
Sleep_ so
I can keep on going. It is once again a fairly plot-lite book, centring =3D
on
the lives of a few characters and their inter-relations (with the main
character being a disillusioned professor of history who finds that some =
=3D
of
the make-believe stories of his childhood may in fact have a firmer =3D
basis in
reality than he had at first thought.) Basically it follows the main
character, Pierce Moffet, as he searches out the secret history of the
world. In does indeed have a lot to do with Renaissance alchemy and has =3D
a
subplot centring around the mystic philosopher Doctor John Dee and his
attempts to communicate with Angels as well as the Giordano Bruno and =3D
his
own discoveries which seem to mirror the ones being made centuries later =
=3D
my
Moffet.

All in all a good story I thought.

T.

--=20

An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net