chems on Urth and a FTL Whorl
Michael Buice · 18 Aug 2003, 18:59
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From: Michael Buice <mabuice at uchicago.edu> Subject: Re: (urth) chems on Urth and a FTL Whorl Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 13:59:14 -0500 Message-ID: <urth-v0308-3932 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0308/3932.txt.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Monday, August 18, 2003, at 01:05 PM, James Wynn wrote: > Crush seeks clarification: > Okay. Are ya'll saying that a generational ship *would* be required=20 > for FTL > travel? > Completely orthogonal question. I'm saying that with sufficient=20 technology to deliver large amounts of power, the generational starship=20 is no longer a realistic story. Although it will seem as if 30 years=20 have passed to any proverbial "Typhon" back on Urth, the ship can=20 travel such that the entire trip takes as few as a couple of seconds to=20 the passengers, acceleration and all. This is essentially a=20 combination of time dilation and Lorentz contraction (and needs a=20 geodesically complete space-time, but nevermind that). Realistically,=20 one would imagine some compromise wherein the generational starship=20 makes more sense and is essentially a big rock traveling at constant=20 velocity through space, not fast enough that the passengers won't still=20 experience a great deal of time (as the, I believe, 500 years or so=20 suggested in Long Sun). For clarity, all of this is subluminal. Superluminal travel, as I said=20 before, completely wrecks causality and should be left to fuzzy logic=20 and "heavenly" Ships. Put it another way, Tzadkiel (or whoever=20 designed the Ship) would have to know more physics than I do (says the=20 physics grad student). Michael --=20
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