mind body problem in the sun books
Nathan Spears · 03 Dec 2004, 06:43
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From: spearofsolomon at yahoo.com (Nathan Spears) Date: Fri Dec 3 06:43:55 2004 Subject: (urth) mind body problem in the sun books In-Reply-To: <20041203012723.F41E83955 at sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: <20041203144348.84764.qmail at web50309.mail.yahoo.com> > As for as the inhumi are concerned, with them, it is seems they are stealing both > the personality and the soul (if they are seperate entities), I think Horn says > they > are stealing both at some point. But that is as if personae and souls are fluids > which are infinitely dissectable, so that if I get a drop of your soul.personality, > you're not less of a person but I'm a person now. I don't know if this is a good > example either. This is much more mystical or rather "magical" than anything which > has > come before and doesn't seem to bear as much on the A.I. debate. If anyone can > explain this in terms of the chems and Severian's multiple selves I'd appreciate it. I think you're right about the Wolfe's mystical take of the problem. The scene that comes foremost to my mind is in the tomb of Apu Panchu; the aliens have resurrected Severian from a scan of him (I presume) and they tell him not to approach another version of himself, explaining with the lines in the sand (like Jesus?) what will happen. Anyway, this seems to fit your fluid analogy pretty well, if you want to think about the merging of the Severians like two drops of water coming together to form a drop of water. I agree with you that it's very puzzling to try and make out what Wolfe thinks establishes unique identity; perhaps he's trying to tell us that it's not as important as we insist it is. > Also, why is Oreb four feet tall in Horn's dreams???????????? Perhaps it's because he's inhabited by one of the gods, but the persona can't express itself fully. He's either a little person or a huge bird. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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