mind body problem in the sun books
Dan'l Danehy-Oakes · 06 Dec 2004, 10:28
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From: danldo at gmail.com (Dan'l Danehy-Oakes)
Date: Mon Dec 6 10:28:18 2004
Subject: (urth) mind body problem in the sun books
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> >[...H]ow are you defining gnostic?
>
> One who believe the world was made by an evil created Demiurge and that
> Jesus was sent by the Increate to rescue from Demiurge's world through
> enlightenment. You know. The basic story of "The Long Sun".
Well, and this is what I've been trying to say for a couple of years now -
that one of Wolfe's fundamental "ideas" is taking non-orthodox-Christian
cosmologies and embedding them into an orthodox-Christian universe.
_Long Sun_ is probably the single most successful version of this, an
utterly faithful embedding of a Gnostic cosmology into the Christian world,
where the "Outsider" stands as both the Christian God and the true-god of
Gnosticism, and Pas stands as the Demiurge, who has set things up so that
the "natural knowledge" of God Paul talks about in Romans is pretty much
not available to the people of the Whorl.
--Dan'l
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