(FWD) Re: (urth) The Wizard - questions -- answers (spoiler)

stilskin · 04 Jan 2005, 12:31 · from 2005-January.txt.gz

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From: acronus at yahoo.com (stilskin)
Date: Tue Jan  4 12:31:27 2005
Subject: (FWD) Re: (urth) The Wizard - questions -- answers (spoiler)
In-Reply-To: <1f76173705010412082f413b3e at mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20050104203123.45553.qmail at web20026.mail.yahoo.com>

That's a convincing argument for keeping it a secret,
but not for his doing it in the first place.  I could
certainly be wrong about Garvaon's actions here; it
wouldn't be the first time I'd misinterpreted Wolfe! 
But so far I'm unconvinced that we are meant to find
Garvaon's actions noble.

Paul
--- Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Stilskin,
> 
> I disagree. Garvaon _had_ to hide what he had done,
> or it
> would have had far worse consequences than the ones
> he 
> was hoping to avoid - if the Angrborn had known that
> one 
> of the "hotlanders" (and one of the "honorable"
> knights no 
> less) had murdered their king, they would have
> slaughtered 
> all the knights and the men-at-arms, and enslaved
> the rest, 
> including Idnn, so she would have wound up in the
> same 
> position (so to speak) except with someone other
> than 
> Gilling, and probabily-possibly not even the new
> king but 
> just some random Angrborn freeholder who bought her
> at 
> auction.
> 
> --Blattid
> 
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:03:29 -0800 (PST), stilskin
> <acronus at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I think you're ascribing far too much nobility to
> > Garvaon and this action. Otherwise he would not
> > attempt to hide what he had done.  But I think
> Wolfe
> > leaves room for careful readers to disagree on
> this
> > and many other points.
> > 
> > --- harlekin at earthlink.net wrote:
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "I'm not sure that Garvaon's sacrifice would
> have
> > > been
> > > appreciated by Idnn had she known of it.  In
> fact,
> > > I'm
> > > pretty confident she would find it reprehensible
> and
> > > offensive."
> > >
> > > That's the point.  Garvaon gets no benefit from
> his
> > > action.  It's a sacrifice of honor on his part.
> > > Thus it is selfish and selfless at the same
> time.
> > > Garvaon's death is a gift to him so he won't
> have to
> > > live with his shame, not an act of redemption. 
> His
> > > place is skai was assured, IMO.
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > >
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