Ormsby, Michael and Setr

Andrew Bollen · 15 Jan 2005, 07:23 · from 2005-January.txt.gz

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From: abollen at internode.on.net (Andrew Bollen)
Date: Sat Jan 15 07:23:27 2005
Subject: (urth) Ormsby, Michael and Setr
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I forogt to mention Setr also. Apparently "r" is an Old Norse masculine case 
ending. I vaguely recall somebody associating Setr with some figure from 
Norse mythology, but it seem to me that we also have Typhon/Set once again 
as the figure of a tyrant with ambitions to conquer heaven.

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Subject: (urth) Ormsby, Michael


> Could have missed it, but haven't noticed anyone giving the place name 
> definition of "Ormsby" courtesy of google: "Village of the Worm/Dragon". 
> (The real Ormsby in northern England is apparently more likely to have 
> been founded by a Viking named Orm, ie Dragon, apparently a common enough 
> name for Vikings.)
>
> "Art Ormsby" then translates to "Art from Dragonville". Griffonford sounds 
> pretty much like Dragonville in Mag's little passage in the Room of Lost 
> Loves - with only Black Bethold and a couple of others resisting Setr & 
> Grengarm. If that's a connection we're supposed to draw, I find it more 
> confusing than anything. If Art's surname is Ormsby, then it's probably 
> also his father's. I think we know that his mother or some version of her 
> went to Griffonford from America, but are we also to suppose that his 
> father (or some version of him) went *from* Griffonford *to* America?
>
> You never know with Wolfe whether you're loading too much on to little 
> things, or not enough.
>
> Unrelated, but I've also missed any mention of Michael as the commander of 
> the host of God in the First Battle and/or the Last Battle. In the second, 
> he slays the Great Worm Satan. He's clearly an appropriate patron for Art.
>
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