urth-urth.net Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1
Jim Raylor · 01 Feb 2005, 14:59
· from 2005-February.txt.gz
This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything
here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer
encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the
archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those
repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is
for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site,
so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.
From: rjraylor at yahoo.co.uk (Jim Raylor) Date: Tue Feb 1 14:59:46 2005 Subject: (urth) Re: urth-urth.net Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1 In-Reply-To: <20050201200601.9B3CA985BF at che.dreamhost.com> Message-ID: <20050201225944.30611.qmail at web25703.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Maru said Of course they do: context matters. When translating it's not a matter of just swapping syntactic structures, grammar, and voabulary- if it was, machine translation woulda been licked a long time ago. Those are low level rules- there are rules that govern how the story acts, and how the meaning units interact. Contextual rules, not just syntactic rules, if that makes sense. -------------- William Burroughs constructed 'Dead Fingers Talk' from cut-ups of his previous novels. I used to attend maths lectures where I would copy the symbols but would only realise their meaning after studying them later. Meaning is at least a crossroads. There is what the author intended. There is also what he did not intend but others see (maybe a professor of Sinology who is just copying the notes left by the dead Mathematician who originally taught this lesson). There is what you see and others don't. There is what they see that you miss. There are tests that challenge whether we perceive the world in the same way, for instance the dot tests for colour blindness and the optician's chart. But who is to say if what looks like a pink sun to you is like a yellow star to me? Not another inkblot! Methinks it looks a lot like a cloud! Next I would have you believe that the twin planet you see above you is made of green cheese! ===== http://prisoner143.50megs.com/ I am not a number I am a free person! ___________________________________________________________ ALL-NEW Yahoo! Messenger - all new features - even more fun! http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com
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