urth-urth.net Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1

Maru Dubshinki · 01 Feb 2005, 17:29 · from 2005-February.txt.gz

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From: marudubshinki at gmail.com (Maru Dubshinki)
Date: Tue Feb  1 17:29:48 2005
Subject: (urth) Re: urth-urth.net Digest, Vol 6, Issue 1
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There is always a temporal gap between perception and comprehension-
more recondite and insanely abstract subjects (like math; please note
the double commentary embedded in 'insane') require more time. No
surprise there.
And as far as the ridicoulous myth of the 'moon' goes, I say only one thing:
http://www.livejournal.com/~l33tsysadmin/26211.html
Are you surprised that people see different meanings? ever think about
memory? what is it but the shuffling throughout time of different
perceptions. Necessarily I went through a different worldline, traced
out a different 4-d line of life, which means that the shuffling of
time I do to understand the information-poor slice of current time
will neccessarily be different.  Furthermore, addinging in another
factor, another recursion, a double exponential, is the fact that I
shuffle not only my own life, but the lives and thoughts of many
others, as conveyed to me.  Those add geometrically, since they affect
every succeeding moment, which affect every succeeding moment....
if we could live long enough, we might see what the upside of an
exponential curve looks like. Always we are on the knee of the J.

~Maru
Microsoft delenda est.
Jim Raylor <rjraylor at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> William Burroughs constructed 'Dead Fingers Talk' from
> cut-ups of his previous novels.
> I used to attend maths lectures where I would copy the
> symbols but would only realise their meaning after
> studying them later.
> Meaning is at least a crossroads.
> There is what the author intended. There is also what
> he did not intend but others see (maybe a professor of
> Sinology who is just copying the notes left by the
> dead Mathematician who originally taught this lesson).
> There is what you see and others don't. There is what
> they see that you miss.
> There are tests that challenge whether we perceive the
> world in the same way, for instance the dot tests for
> colour blindness and the optician's chart.
> But who is to say if what looks like a pink sun to you
> is like a yellow star to me?
> Not another inkblot! Methinks it looks a lot like a
> cloud!
> Next I would have you believe that the twin planet you
> see above you is made of green cheese!

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