Abraham

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes · 11 Apr 2005, 15:44 · from 2005-April.txt.gz

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From: danldo at gmail.com (Dan'l Danehy-Oakes)
Date: Mon Apr 11 15:44:34 2005
Subject: (urth) Abraham
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On Apr 11, 2005 3:21 PM, Nathan Spears <spearofsolomon at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I'm with you.  But for those who believe in the story literally, or even
> those who look to Biblical story as templates for their own actions, the
> fact that it is symbolic of later events doesn't change the facts of the
> almost-sacrifice of Isaac itself.  In other words, God wouldn't have
> acted this way, or even told such a story, in order to simply illustrate
> a future event.  The actions of the story also have to be consistent
> with the way God behaves, right?

Yes, it does. 

One thing it seems to indicate - to Christians and Jews alike - is that God 
asks us to be willing to sacrifice everything, and doesn't promise to provide
 a ram (Abraham went to the mountain fully expecting to sacrifice his son).

Another: God keeps promises. But does not promise that it will look
that way. 

Another: That obdience will sometimes be painful and terrifying.

--Dan'l

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