SV: (urth) cthulhu mythos, BotNS

nastler · 03 Jun 2005, 00:46 · from 2005-June.txt.gz

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From: nastler at yahoo.dk (nastler)
Date: Fri Jun  3 00:46:40 2005
Subject: SV: (urth) cthulhu mythos, BotNS
In-Reply-To: <20050602213656.36325.qmail at web32402.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20050603074637.46661.qmail at web54208.mail.yahoo.com>

Small point; The book 17 Megatherians dosn't go in the
sabertache, it stays in the library. The "corrupting"
influence on Sev probably comes to him through Thecla,
who is a good bet for having read 17 Megs...

I'd like to hear more discussion about the Great Old
Ones / Elder Gods. I think it's only been referenced
before, not chewed to the marrow the way things are
usually done on this list....  :-)

nastler


--- don doggett <kingwukong at yahoo.com> skrev:

> I googled to see if this had been touched on in the
> archives and I didn't find anything, but forgive me
> if
> I'm going over old ground.  I'm in the process of
> reading a collection of short stories by August
> Derleth, set in Lovecraft's universe.  The stories
> are
> quite good so far, and it seems to me that perhaps
> Derleth, rather than Lovecraft, was a greater
> influence on Wolfe regarding the nature of Abaia and
> the rest and their conflict with the Hiero's.  The
> very fact of a conflict seems to bear this out as
> Derleth sets the Great Old Ones (Cthulhu etc)
> against
> the Elder Gods who, interestingly enough, reside in
> Orion.  There is no such dichotomy in Lovecraft, to
> the best of my knowledge.  There is also mention of
> some of these creatures living forward in time and
> plenty of references to something thundering in
> places
> beneath the earth (the resemblance to the mines of
> saltus is uncanny).  Another persistent theme I have
> noticed in Derleth's stories is the ability of
> forbidden knowledge to corrupt.  The simple reading
> of
> passages from the Necronomicon or the other evil
> texts
> from these stories is often enough to set a
> character
> on the path to his doom.  This makes me wonder about
> Severian's possession of the Lives of the 17
> Megatherians (isn't that one of the books in his
> sabertache?) and where his loyalties lie.
> 
> Don
> 
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