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David Langford · 15 Jan 2000, 14:11
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From: ansible at cix.co.uk (David Langford) Subject: (whorl) Re: Digest whorl.v010.n066 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2000 14:11 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Message-ID: <whorl-v0010-0214 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/whorl/archives/v0010/0214.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Josh Levitan wrote ... [snippage] > I have a feeling that Wolfe's given us enough info to figure out what=20 > the secret is currently. It reminds me of that Borges story, "The=20 > Mystery of The Phoenix(?)" (something like that) in Ficciones, where he=20 > talks around the secret rite of the cult of the Phoenix and supposedly=20 > gives enough info to figure out what the rite is (although I've always=20 > been too dense to figure it out). Where does it say that Borges gives enough information? My reading of "The=20 Sect of the Phoenix" (also translated as "The Cult of the Phoenix") is=20 that it's a joke, practically a shaggy dog story, deliberately blurred by=20 anti-information. Drop the teasing physical details about "the cork and=20 the slime", or push them sideways into metaphor, and ... [Does Borges need spoiler space on this list? Oh well:] ... it does seem very much as though the Mystery Rite, which is despised,=20 trivial, not talked about, abstained from by the very virtuous, yet=20 somehow never dies out and may indeed have become instinctive, is=20 ordinary human sexual intercourse. Dave David Langford ansible at cix.co.uk | http://www.ansible.demon.co.uk/ *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request at lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth at lists.best.= com
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