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Josh Levitan · 16 Jan 2000, 20:29
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From: "Josh Levitan" <josh_levitan at hotmail.com> Subject: (whorl) Re: Digest whorl.v010.n068 Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2000 12:29:20 PST Message-ID: <whorl-v0010-0217 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/whorl/archives/v0010/0217.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David Langford wrote: >Where does it say that Borges gives enough information? My reading of "The >Sect of the Phoenix" (also translated as "The Cult of the Phoenix") is >that it's a joke, practically a shaggy dog story, deliberately blurred by >anti-information. Drop the teasing physical details about "the cork and >the slime", or push them sideways into metaphor, and ... > >[Does Borges need spoiler space on this list? Oh well:] > Borges writes that there's enough info to figure it out in the prologue to=20 "Artifices," the second half of FICCIONES. On page 105 of the new(er) Grov= e=20 Press paperback -- "In the allegory of the Phoenix, I imposed upon myself=20 the problem of hinting at an ordinary fact -- the Secret -- in a [sic]=20 irresolute and gradual manner, which in the end, would prove to be=20 unequivocal; I do not know how fortunate I have been." Because every other story in this collection is at least staggeringly=20 well-written, and some of them among the best I've ever read (like "Tlon,=20 Uqbar, Orbis Tertius"), I'm going to give Borges the benefit of the doubt=20 here and place the blame on my weak intellect. > >... it does seem very much as though the Mystery Rite, which is despised, >trivial, not talked about, abstained from by the very virtuous, yet >somehow never dies out and may indeed have become instinctive, is >ordinary human sexual intercourse. Actually, looking over the story again, that fits really nicely. See, it I= S=20 my own stupidity, not Borges' fault. I just got thrown off by mentions of=20 the rite being performed with "cork, wax, or gum arabic," or silt. I don't=20 really see how cork, wax, gum arabic, and silt are metaphoric=20 representations of the sexual organs or the act. Maybe I'm reading a crumm= y=20 translation. Is there any way that those things can be used in intercourse=20 -- perhaps as primitive birth control or lubrication or something? Or is=20 Borges just throwing in red herrings? Josh, who still needs a Vironese name... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request at lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth at lists.best.= com
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