Oreb/Pas
Jim Jordan · 19 Aug 2000, 17:25
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From: Jim Jordan <jbjordan at gnt.net> Subject: Re: (whorl) Oreb/Pas Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:25:30 Message-ID: <whorl-v0011-0136 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/whorl/archives/v0011/0136.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The Oreb as Scylla theory has much to sustain it, but I'm inclined more to the Oreb as Kypris and also (thus) as Holy Spirit. The statement that Silk might move up to an administrative position links with the death, resurrection, and eventual ascension of Silk (Jesus) to a heavenly throne (as part of the trinity, with Pas/father and Kypris/spirit). He would get to take Oreb with him, and pass him on to others (as to Horn).=20 It is also interesting to speculate on the relationship of Pas to the Outsider. Pas himself has undergone death and resurrection, no? Dismembered by his family, and then restored to life through Kypris's work. We can assume that Old Pas was Evil Typhon downloaded, but what about New Pas? New Pas is clearly to the Father what Silk is to the Son and Kypris to the Spirit (the archetype of femininity in Christian thought).=20 The Spirit is sent by the Father to Jesus at the latter's baptism, as His earthly guide during His human life. Oreb fulfills this function, and thus might be seen as manifesting both New Pas and also Kypris.=20 (Yes, I know Oreb is also in Germanic mythology, as the limp also goes with Claudius, etc. But given that Silk's life is a copy of the gospel narrative, I submit that the primary imagery is taken from there.) Scylla remains. I suggested Scylla as the novelistic equivalent of the Harlot in Revelation, riding on the back of the scarlet beast. The Harlot is the counterfeit of the Spirit-created Church, and thus of the Spirit. Thus, Scylla imagery associated with Kypris and Oreb would not be out of line, Scylla as mirror image of Kypris. Does this work? Are there tags in the novels that associate Scylla-imagery with Kypris-imagery? Pat. Nut. *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request at lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth at lists.best.= com
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