Heresy
Michael Andre-Driussi · 19 Feb 2001, 12:43
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From: Michael Andre-Driussi <mantis at sirius.com> Subject: Re: (whorl) Heresy Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2001 12:43:50 Message-ID: <whorl-v0012-0301 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/whorl/archives/v0012/0301.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable BMeyer7 at aol.com wrote: >OK, I'm sure I'll be the target of the wrath of many, but here goes. First, >let me set forth my background--I've been reading SF/F for my entire life >(I'm 40), have read every published word of Wolfe, and, while not nearly as >sophisticated as many on this list, am not a total Wolfe-dummy. I figured >out lots of stuff (including what was going on in "Fifth Head") on my own, >before such lists provided the insights of others. OK, reading this list, >it >is striking that after 7 books in this series, the very, very, smart people >posting cannot come up with a consensus about what the hell is going on wi= th >respect to key issues. Now a series of rhetorical questions: At what point >does intentional obscurity on the part of an author become a self-indulgent >pretention that gets in the way of artistic expression? How much do we >really love Wolfe because he's a great writer and how much because it's fun >to solve puzzles? Has Wolfe crossed the line from not giving all the answe= rs >to creating texts that must be pored over by talmudic scholars rather than >actual readers of novels? Is Wolfe writing for a smaller, and smaller >audience of expert Wolfe-interpreters? Discuss. Well BMeyer7, as you no doubt recall from the days of GEnie, if not before then, it all boils down to "you like it" or "you don't like it." Case in point: Henry Kaiser, in his review of RTTW for Amazon.com, I think makes some of the same statements you are making, but he is making them from the clear position of "I like it." For example, iirc, Henry says that Wolfe is making it harder rather than easier on his readers, and Henry =3Dlikes=3D this detail, it amazes him that Wolfe may be writing for a smal= ler group. At every step along Wolfe's career there have been those who felt he had crossed some line: people who loved 5HC but found TBOTNS to be something of a fakeout (I believe we can safely put Robert Silverberg in this "New Sun is a fakeout" category); people who loved TBOTNS but feel that URTH is a fakeout (witness recent revival of that chestnut); people who loved the Urth Cycle but didn't like TBOTLS (Christopher Culver is a gracious example). Or people who like everything =3Dbut=3D when Wolfe gets contemporary, as in CASTLEVIEW, THERE ARE DOORS, PANDORA, FREE LIVE FREE, LETTERS HOME (alga is the gracious example). You probably remember more than most what my least favorite Wolfe novel is. Everybody has their own taste. The rest is just ferreting out the details of why we like or dislike something, and like I tried to illustrate above, the same elements can be used for liking or disliking something. I myself am not too good at figuring out why I dislike something--it is too much labor, whereas figuring out why I like something is an intoxicating joy that I have done for free, regardless of the real cost. =3Dmantis=3D Sirius Fiction Catalog and errata sheet at http://www.sirius.com/~mantis/ *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request at lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth at lists.best.= com
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