women, memory, and stuff
shannon wilde · 27 Feb 2001, 05:16
· from whorl-v0012.mbox · original
This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything
here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer
encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the
archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those
repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is
for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site,
so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.
From: shannon wilde <swilde_99 at yahoo.com>
Subject: (whorl) women, memory, and stuff
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 05:16:02
Message-ID: <whorl-v0012-0372 at digest.urth.net>
X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/whorl/archives/v0012/0372.shtml
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello all! I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt
somewhat irked by RttW. The lists have been helping
me get some things (like narrators) somewhat
straightened out. Thanks, as ever.
Mr. Groce wondered why Nettle returned to Whorl, what
with her wife-and-mother duties being over. Well,
unWolfeish as it sounds, maybe it was to pursue her
career! As a writer and editor, she sure beats either
Horn or, apparently, Silk. The Book of Nettle, set
during and after the upcoming voyage-that could be
pretty neat. And an awfully big change for Wolfe, not
known for overwhelming compassion towards female
characters. Maybe he finds it more acceptable for
women to "find themselves" after they have worked off
their Original Sin Duties. (Sorry, that wasn't nice,
but I don't think it was unwarranted.) I found the
contrasts in his treatment of women throughout LS and
SS very odd, (especially Chenille and Mucor) so maybe
he was experimenting to a purpose. OK, maybe not...;)
Also, quick aside on the topic of memory and identity.
I don't know if Wolfe necessarily provides answers re
their function as part of the soul (whatever that
is:)). But when I reread the Soldier books I'm always
astounded by the portrayal of the hellish torment and
confusion of losing one's short-term memory. It
_does_ feel as if one is losing one's soul, or has
lost it. And maybe one does, or at least misplaces it.
I especially appreciated the depiction of the
emotionality resulting from Latro's slow recovery.=20
Wolfe was dead on target there, and I'm inclined to
trust his judgment in the identity shell game in
LS/SS.* Now, if I could just comprehend it! Looking
forward to your posts,
=20
-Shannon
*I except the Oreb/Scylla merger. That just felt cheap.
__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail.=20
http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
*This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun.
*More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/
*To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request at lists.best.com
*If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth at lists.best.=
com
An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net