tincture of Pas
Michael Straight · 05 Apr 2001, 08:59
· from whorl-v0012.mbox · original
This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything
here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer
encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the
archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those
repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is
for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site,
so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.
From: Michael Straight <straight at email.unc.edu> Subject: Re: (whorl) tincture of Pas Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 08:59:02 Message-ID: <whorl-v0012-0537 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/whorl/archives/v0012/0537.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 4 Apr 2001, Adam Stephanides wrote: > on 4/4/01 8:01 AM, Michael Straight at straight at email.unc.edu wrote: >=20 > > Too late! I recant. I'm convinced that vizcacha's interpretation is > > correct: Incanto means that since "Pas" now refers to Pas+Silk that "Pa= s" > > is present because Silk is present (I guess this is sufficiently elipti= cal > > that Incanto can say "Pas is here, in a sense" without admiting to hims= elf > > that he is Silk). >=20 > I'd like to be able to agree with this, since I don't believe Silk-in-Pig > has been downloaded into Silk's body either. But I can't. Just because = the > divine Silk is linked with Pas, it doesn't follow that Pas is present in = the > human Silk. And even if it did, I don't think Horn would say "Pas is her= e" > based upon Pas's presence in the human Silk unless he consciously recogni= zed > that he was Silk. You misunderstand. Vizcacha is not saying that Incanto has any of Typhon downloaded into him. Incanto is 0% Typhon. But "Pas," as he exists now on the Whorl, is at least partially and perhaps principally Silk. So if the human Silk is present, then Pas is present in a sense because Pas is now based on the human Silk. Thus the first part of the quoted passage, where Incanto says that Pas doesn't exist on the whorl anymore either. The original Pas who was equal to Typhon is gone. The new Pas is Passilk. -Rostrum *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request at lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth at lists.best.= com
An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net