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James Jordan · 18 Apr 2001, 14:19
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From: James Jordan <jbjordan4 at home.com>
Subject: Re: (whorl) Re: Digest whorl.v012.n105
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:19:26
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>Alga wrote:
>So I object to your thesis of Wolfe's using epic as an excuse. Epic is
>more complicated than that. And I hardly think the Middle Eastern view
>of women served up by the Bible--multiple wives and concubines, Mary and
>Martha etc.--is more progressive. Let's not forget that Mary's
>impregnation was exactly the same as that of Zeus's numerous
>ladyfriends. She didn't exactly ask for it, did she?
Okay, I know your point of view. (I have your book on hell, after=20
all.) My point was the influence of the Bible on our culture, and during=20
those centuries it was believed that the Bible forbids polygamy and that=20
people who practise it suffer for it. Obviously nobody believed that Mary=20
and Martha were "wives" of Jesus, and they accepted the text as teaching=20
that Mary accepted the role offered her. So, however some modern people may=20
read the Bible, I was speaking of its cultural influence over the previous=20
1800 years. I don't suppose this is a good topic for this list to discuss=20
in detail; I assume you see my point.
But I grant your point about Homer and the early epics, at least=20
to a degree, as I stated in my other post.
King of Rats
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