Pig's eye and astral needles
Jason Ingram · 23 Apr 2001, 22:11
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From: Jason Ingram <jingram at usc.edu> Subject: Re: (whorl) Pig's eye and astral needles Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2001 22:11:08 Message-ID: <whorl-v0012-0713 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/whorl/archives/v0012/0713.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yves raises some interesting issues: >What is disturbing to me is that there is so much divine possession >implicit in the story that one cannot reliably know who is who. This questioning of identity was one of the more powerful aspects of=20 the series, in my mind. I suppose that each reader negotiates her=20 own contract, though. >This clearly implies that the needles are not tangible: that the inhumi's >belief that they have been wounded is what kills them. Since the Narrator >can pass through walls as well, I would be tempted to assume that he is not >tangible at all himself. But he does interact with his physical >surroundings at other times -- or does he? Can someone provide an >unambiguous quote to dispel the doubt? Because if we have no clear evidence >of interaction with physical objects other than people, then we might >theorize that it is the observer's belief in the physicality of astral >projections that gives them "substance" to the extent that the _observer_ >can be affected. This is a tempting line of analysis; the argument I would be tempted=20 to make is that bilocation only affects those who "go under," and=20 that those visited are merely epiphenomenal. However, Severian seems=20 to contradict this theory: the narrator and others appear to a real=20 (?) character, so bilocation does not seem limited to shared visions=20 with psychosomatic effects on those participating. Also, Horn's=20 translation into Silk seems quite similar to bilocation. The question of tangibility is distinct. I'm not sure how to delimit=20 "physical" in this case. The ability of the inhumi to pass as human=20 is in part related to a sort of psychic camouflage; the Neighbors=20 have passed on some powers to Horn which followed his psyche to Silk;=20 so it may be worth playing with the unique powers afforded by that=20 interaction--as others have done. Related issues: regarding plausibility: if Mucor's powers were acceptable to readers,=20 I'm not sure why this variant (bilocation with groups, but without=20 possession) should seem substantially less reasonable. regarding The Secret: it seems clear that blood passes on=20 intelligence to offspring. This makes me curious about Patera=20 Quetzal . . . did one of his parents encounter humans prior to the=20 Whorl's visit? (otherwise, how could the first have made it to the=20 Loganstone in order to return to raise a brood?) Did Quetzal have=20 other-than-human intelligence? Am I missing something? Jason *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun. *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.moonmilk.com/whorl/ *To leave the list, send "unsubscribe" to whorl-request at lists.best.com *If it's Wolfe but not Long Sun, please use the URTH list: urth at lists.best.= com
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