Neighborly transmigration and other observations

James Jordan · 04 Jan 2002, 19:49 · from whorl-v0013.mbox · original

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From: James Jordan <jbjordan4 at home.com>
Subject: Re: (whorl) Neighborly transmigration and other observations
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2002 13:49:09 -0600
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At 11:17 AM 1/4/2002 -0700, you wrote:

>Well, it seems to me that you answer your own objection, there.  If a=20
>Neighbor
>is calling to him as Babbie, then he IS around a Neighbor or one of their
>artifacts, especially if he lays his head upon their knee.

Good point.

>How else can you read that whole part about the hus being more human than
>scylla in the astral part, and his special treatment of Hoof?  Come on, ad=
mit
>that I'm right, just this once.

No problem. You may well be.

>   Remember the dream that Hide had of a doll
>searching for him? he hides under a couch with eight (or ten) legs.  There=
 is
>a two legged soul in the hus, and I'm pretty sure it is, by the end of the
>book, Horn.  Also, look at the prophecy of Marble: the last thing for Horn=
 is
>riding a beast with three horns, after wealth and command.  He had wealth =
and
>command in Gaon, then he winds up in Babbie.

Good point. The 3-horn business comes after the rule. Now, am I=20
understanding you right? Are you saying that Horn's spirit first goes into=20
Silk's body, and then when Silk is revived by Severian, Horn enters=20
Babbie's body? That's an intriguing thesis. I'd like to hear from some of=20
the others on this list, who have devoted more attention to the problem of=20
who the Narrator is at various points.
         Now, rather than repost all of your interesting missive, let me=20
ask this: Are you suggesting that the Green Man who meets Severian might be=20
a Neighbor from Ushas? From what you wrote, I gather you are suggesting=20
something like this:

1. Urth becomes Ushas.
2. Intelligent plants, perhaps "descended" from humans, take over Ushas as=20
Neighbors/Green Men.
3. Neighbors create inhumi on Green/Lune.
4. Much later, they transcend Ushas and "move on."
5. The Whorl arrives back at Ushas/Lune (Blue/Green), perhaps a million=20
years later (because I don't see how all the above could have happened in=20
1000 years).

         I'm not trying to be funny, just trying to figure out what your=20
thesis is. Perhaps you can unpack it. (BTW, I find your investigations very=20
stimulating.)

Nutria

        =20

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