a personal tangent in praise of Gene
Dan'l Danehy-Oakes · 09 Jan 2002, 17:22
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From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <ddanehy at siebel.com> Subject: RE: (whorl) a personal tangent in praise of Gene Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 09:22:18 -0800 Message-ID: <whorl-v0013-whorl.v012.n187.2 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/whorl/archives/v0013/whorl.v012.n187.2.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Marc, I agree completely with you about Wolfe and about the SS books: when the list went through the immediate post-RttW spasm of discussion, I recall commenting that the books were far too complex to dismiss, the way some seemed to, without living and wrestling with them for at least a year or two. I stand by that. > ... remember how dead this list was until I started throwing out > outrageous theories=20 Well, it has been quiet lately, yes. > I just don't think you can apply Occam's razor to a tricky dude like Gene > Wolfe=20 Well, here I agree and disagree. You can apply it _where appropriate_. The real problem with the Principle of Parsimony is that it's misunderstood and misused. It does _not_ state, as often misquoted, that the simplest=20 explanation is the likeliest; it suggests that one's solutions should not needlessly hypothesize "entities" not obviously present in the problem. I think that principle _does_ apply - that is, our solutions to the problems=20 GW's works present should not introduce any persons, planets, etc., not clearly present in the works. > He should have won a Hugo. Why did Harry Potter IV win? What the heck?!=20 Frankly, I doubt GW will ever win a novel Hugo; the fan base that votes the=20 award is demographically pretty broad and GW's fan base is, demographically, pretty narrow. The time when "intellectual" novels could realistically win the Hugo was pretty much over by the mid-'70s. > I think that it really bears very little in common with The Book of > the Long Sun -> which was comparitively open and honest even though > they were trapped inside the whorl. Outside the whorl, in the vastness > of space, there is no openness: even the narrator does't realize who he > is, Hoof doesn't recognize his own father in Babbie even though he > treats him so obviously like a son, and we cannot recognize our own > home because we have forgotten science. =20 I like this. I don't think I can go with Blue/Green =3D=3D Urth/Lune, but your point about the relative openness/closedness of the two Books is very well put. --Blattid
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