Smith & Vance
m.driussi · 18 Mar 1997, 03:32
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From: m.driussi at genie.com Subject: (whorl) Smith & Vance Date: Tue, 18 Mar 97 03:32:00 GMT Message-ID: <whorl-v0004-0250 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/whorl/archives/v0004/0250.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable [Posted from Whorl, the mailing list for Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun] Reply: Item #4788907 from WHORL at LISTS.BEST.COM@INET00# Nutria, OTOH we know (from interviews as well as Wolfe-written articles) that Gene Wolfe read and deeply admired Jack Vance's THE DYING EARTH. And most readers, I think, will sense a certain similarity in writing styles between Vance and Wolfe: high style, macabre humor, cultural anthropology, etc. Yet (and maybe this is just me, I don't know) Wolfe's work in spirit and in tone is actually much closer to Cordwainer Smith's work than it is to Vance's. Part of this is probably [hedgeword] due to the fact that nearly all of the time [hedge] Vance is lambasting Religion as a controlling tool used by the dominant minority over the gullible population. Vance belongs to a tradition of anti-religion genre writers going back to Edgar Rice Burroughs and before. (He is also a satirist of the arbitrary conventions found in every society.) So the paradox: TBOTNS is said to be (and understood to be) a descendant of Vance's THE DYING EARTH (and Clark Ashton Smith's "Zothique," but I don't want to argue about that at the moment <g>), yet in reality TBOTNS is more like Cordwainer Smith's work, =3Deven though=3D nobody is claiming that Wolfe ever read such. (Personally I see a lot of difference between Herbert's work and Cordwainer Smith's work: in soundbyte terms, because Herbert is working out Machiavellian themes and Smith is working out Christian themes. [Now, I am aware that there is a reading of DUNE that sees it as a wonderful affirmation of Islam--not to detract from those who believe this, still I remain sceptical, due to the Machiavellian focus of much of Herbert's work.]) =3Dmantis=3D Questions or problems to whorl-owner at lists.best.com
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