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Antechamber Prisoners

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m.driussi14 Mar 1998, 05:36originalas archived
Antechamber Prisoners
Reply: Item #1015407 from URTH at LISTS.BEST.COM@INET# The text says that the prisoners (most but not all--don't forget Lomer and Nicarete) are descendents of crew of a starship that crashlanded on or near the House Absolute. They were looking for the Port but they couldn't find one at all. Starship crews are, by Briahtic definition, from earlier ages--their travels across light years have taken years of time. "Jonas," an android sailor on the ship, was repaired with biological remnants of an Urth shepherd who was killed by the crash. Hence he "looks" like a (European) commoner rather than an Asiatic (Korean/Chinese/whatever) microwave oven. As you know, I consider "Kimleesoong" to be the most likely answer to the question of "What is Hethor's true and secret name?" =mantis=
C R Culver14 Mar 1998, 21:58originalas archived
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As you know, I consider "Kimleesoong" to be the most likely answer to the question of "What is Hethor's true and secret name?"<
But that would make Hethor pretty darn old, wouldn't it? I mean, the antichamber prisoners speak of Kimleesoong as far back in time, and although Hethor is "a dirty old sailor," he doesn't appear several hundred years old (e.g. like Keith Richards). There is talk in UotNS of sailors getting older, younger, or just staying the same forever, but that is on the ship of Tzadkiel and not Urth. It could be that Hethor found himself in the antichamber, but was able to escape with his powers of thaumatugy (after fathering children, or whatever), and then perhaps spent more time in space before coming back to Urth in Severian's era. Of course, Jonas and Hethor (if KLS is indeed his real name) are both Korean, but they served on different ships, or did they? Are the Quasar and Fortunate Cloud the same? Both crashed far back in the Autarchy when looking for the ports, although Wolfe hints that this happened with most ships returning to Urth. One wonders why they didn't just go to the Port of Lune. Incidentally, Severian says to the Hierodules (Famulimus, Babatus, and Ossipago) that Hethor never mentioned his ship's name, but he did, and it was the Quasar. So whose memory is at fault here, Severian or Wolfe's? Christopher R. Culver <crculver at aol.com> http://members.aol.com/crculver/index.html

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