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PW has a (non-starred) review this week: a summary. Don't read it if you really don't want to know. Civilization is decaying on Blue, and Horn is sent to find Silk, i.e. a l…
14 Sep 1999, 08:18
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Wow, it's amazing that you noticed that! I can't find a slider on that version of that URL s I don't have patience for it---also since I don't have cable at home, I had to wait to …
01 Sep 1999, 21:41
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Hi Jim, nice to see you. Actually, the subject has come up, though quite a long time back. I haven't tried the new search engine, so can't speak to that. But I know the creation m…
29 Aug 1999, 21:12
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Apologies for being inattentive---I simply hadn't registered that Roy had already posted the Farmer's Almanac table, the most inclusive of all these lists. But isn't that virtually…
14 Aug 1999, 11:58
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From http://www.noble.mass.edu/ref/fullmoon.htm Native American Names January - Wolf Moon February - Snow Moon, Hunger Moon, Opening Buds Moon March - Maple Sugar Moon, Worm Moon …
14 Aug 1999, 11:45
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Taken from the web: Tuesday, November 3, 1998 DB: This is Earth and Sky -- Tuesday, November 3 -- a good night to watch the moon rise. JB: Some calendars show the full moon as to…
14 Aug 1999, 11:35
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I haven't really been following the dialog on moons and months. But, as a gardener, I object to putting the Spading Moon after the Harvest Moon. Spading is done in the spring. Even…
14 Aug 1999, 11:09
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Okay, I got it. Page 123 of the Montcrieff-Kilmartin (1981) translation. Your version: On leaving the church I knelt down before the alter, and as I stood up I smelled all of…
27 Jul 1999, 10:15
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My dear corncrake! Chapeaux off to you indeed! One small correction: frangipane means powdered or ground almonds, often mixed with fine sugar. Akin to marzipane, but dry. Etamine…
26 Jul 1999, 20:31
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For those wondering about Mrs. B.'s take on other Whorl characters (yes, this probably ought to be in the other forum, but it's a continuation of Roy's thread), Rose has many meani…
25 Jul 1999, 10:12
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This is another post I sent 3 days ago in response to Roy. I just realized this morning that it didn't go through., so here it is again. _____________ I've dug around and found an…
23 Jul 1999, 09:21
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Oh, one thing more. Why, you may ask, am I trying to make something Shakespearean out of what might be an ordinary kitchen herb garden. Well, the clue is rue. Rue simply isn't grow…
21 Jul 1999, 23:29
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Well now, Nigel, let's not get carried away. -Ozma of Oz-, published in the early years of this century (and a book we're pretty sure Wolfe has read, given "Eyeflash"), has an unde…
04 Jul 1999, 08:53
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Josh, True, I was fond of my idea in a vampiric sort of way. But Wolfe actually vocalized to someone--if it wasn't mantis, or Patrick it might have been Jim Jordan (of whom there …
02 Jul 1999, 20:58
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Clifford, Emphatically, only in the movie was Dorothy's trip to Oz a dream. She was not dreaming!!!! Wolfe was operating from the Oz *books* (where Tip, the transformed Ozma, appe…
25 Jun 1999, 18:33
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Cliff, There's some very good material on "Eyeflash"---keep looking. But I think Sugarland, in context, is the Big Rock Candy Mountain. You know, er, Heaven. Alice…
15 Jun 1999, 22:36
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From Wolfe's complex theology, I'd say that he'd view (and I'd Yes, I'd agree with that. And Jonas, or what Sev believes to be Jonas (Miles), is the closest thing Sev ever has to …
12 Jun 1999, 13:02
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I don't see why classifying Tzadkiel as an angel falls into a religious reading. I'm not a bit religious, and I think of the designation as literary (and useful and accurate, as I'…
28 Apr 1999, 09:41
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The American Heritage magazine that landed on my desk today as its cover story has one of those overrated/underrated features that magazines dote on (this is better than most becau…
27 Apr 1999, 20:20
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Skipping a great deal of verbiage, here's one Wolfe quote from Roy: "Yours is a race of pawns," Tzadkiel told me. "You move forward only, unless we move you back to begin the …
25 Apr 1999, 12:13
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And just what is your definition of supernatural? I don't think I need to go into detail with this group, but please consider the many manifestations of Zak/Tzadkiel: are these "na…
24 Apr 1999, 13:36
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Now wait a sec here. Tzadkiel is not Michael but s/he certainly is an angel, not an archangel like Michael, but a sufficiently great and important being for Urth/Ushas. S/he is the…
23 Apr 1999, 08:54
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Could you enlarge on this a bit? I'm not quite following. -alga…
21 Apr 1999, 22:32
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My, that is a peculiar cover! Hard to believe it was done to order for this book---it's like something they found in a cupboard and decided to slap on just to save money. -alga…
18 Apr 1999, 11:37
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Hey, Agilus and potto! Not bad--I like bad-guy names. And Jonathan, of course, not such a bad guy. Potto, that's a great premise, but it's risky to predict Wolfe. Of course Anne R…
08 Apr 1999, 21:09
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Thank you, Ranjit. It's a wonderful list, and without you we wouldn't have it. Um, with regard to the New Sun/White Fountain, I bow to you boys in your physics calculations, but I…
06 Apr 1999, 19:23
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William, I think you've done a great job, and that you should polish it up and publish it somewhere. About the wings: This is a peculiar thing that Wolfe does sometimes---look at …
18 Mar 1999, 20:21
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John Bishop, corncrake, You are certainly onto something! Here's just a thought, taken from the Britannica: the explorer-missionary David Livingston's father-in-law, Robert Moffat…
16 Mar 1999, 18:20
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Rev, You are a fine (even needed) addition to this group. IMHO. -alga…
20 Feb 1999, 14:39
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Well, yeah, I bet they did. Maybe Apollonius Rhodus, Apollodorus or Plato, all of whom tell the story. Or, in Wolfe's case, Graves, who cites them. Whee, I can post again! -alga …
20 Feb 1999, 14:35
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William Ansley, Thanks for your Oz-Eyeflash material, which I would have helped you with except that I've been unable to post. Here's another try. The Munchkins (blue) are usually…
04 Feb 1999, 07:48
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Thanks to those who responded re McKillip. I'm happy to report that I've done a 180 on this assignment. The book I want to recommend to this butch bunch is SONG FOR THE BASILISK, d…
20 Jan 1999, 06:47
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Begging your pardons, but hoping the group might appreciate someting novel to focus on for a minute or two, I'd like to solicit your opinions, very much including lurkers' opinions…
16 Jan 1999, 23:41
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I've been reading it too. Santa sent it <g>. -alga…
15 Jan 1999, 21:33
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Stephen et al, I too think -The Moonstone- holds up wonderfully well, especially considering what a pioneer it was, 1868, decades before the great adventure fiction of the end of …
05 Jan 1999, 20:35
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Re Jonathan's clockwork query: The idea of the "mechanical (or clockwork) universe" dates back as far as the 14th c, but became really influential in the just pre-Enlightened lat…
12 Dec 1998, 11:59
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Er, ahem, let me note parentheticially that not only metaphorically and mystically, but in some sense literally, the sexual union of Sev and Apheta does indeed create or conceive t…
04 Dec 1998, 18:55
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Actually, according to something I read somewhere lately (don't you love that?--such a perfect Usenet reference), perhaps an article in The Atlantic, Jesus may well have spoken som…
02 Dec 1998, 19:04
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Michael Andre-Driussi's address, for business purposes, is: Sirius Fiction P.O. Box 460430 San Francisco, CA 94146 But I think he'd gladly take email orders from us. Don't forget…
27 Nov 1998, 13:00
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Here is a message from David Hartwell concerning the new book. I asked him if we could get a group discount for advance orders. It seems to me strange that he says no--group discou…
24 Nov 1998, 01:57
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I wouldn't dare post this if the list weren't somewhat comatose, but here's something I just read that I thought might speak to the Weer group (of which I am not one). No chance th…
13 Nov 1998, 00:06
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From Wombat: Well, hmmm, the second. I've never read a word of -Sandman-; I suppose I should. Though I cottoned to Gaiman right away as an interesting short story writer. That "T…
07 Nov 1998, 17:54
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How interesting to read in that Borges site (for which, thanks) that both Neil Gaiman and Umberto Eco are fond of G.K. Chesterton. -alga…
06 Nov 1998, 16:35
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Shady to me too. Not my idea of a 3-D character. Hell of a story-teller, though. -alga…
05 Nov 1998, 12:43
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Greg, I don't think it's "explained," but does it need to be? Once you've had a look at Echidna and Scylla in action, wouldn't you do your best to keep them off-screen as well? Plu…
04 Nov 1998, 09:22
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they [snip] Oh, I agree, and could easily find other examples, even from Gilgamesh. (Why are you reading Butler, btw, did you download it? There are some splendid more modern tra…
03 Nov 1998, 08:45
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Heh heh. *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun.…
02 Nov 1998, 01:38
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My goodness, that seems a bit much. My own opinion simply is that Hy is No Better Than She Should Be and also Big Trouble, and that we haven't heard the last of her--she's much too…
02 Nov 1998, 01:33
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I think Mothman is really onto something here. Jaynes's book was published in 1979 in the US and caused the most tremendous furor--it was a real whoop-de-do. -Soldier of the Mist- …
29 Oct 1998, 19:46
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One strong argument against Miles and Jolenta's being actual siblings (or lookalikes) is that *Jolenta* doesn't look like Jolenta. The original is a plain serving girl whom Dr. Tal…
29 Oct 1998, 17:39
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