Posted from 8 addresses as Alice Turner, Alice K. Turner, akt, aturner3
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Just think, if Mark and Dan got into an altercation, and Dan won, we could say, Nacre really got shellacked, didn't he?" and he (Mark) could reply, "Well, I was knackered." Okay, …
22 Oct 1998, 20:47
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I've vainly been digging around to find my copy of -Hebrew Myths- by Graves and someone else--not a patch on -Greek Myths-, but still....can't find it. Anyway, the most famous (and…
22 Oct 1998, 08:52
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ooopsie! Given Wolfe's age, Marlene Dietrich as Lola Lola in "The Blue Angel" is probably more along the lines of what he was thinking of. Madonna is only a brassy imitation. -al…
21 Oct 1998, 08:02
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Alex, Why don't you see if your friend who wrote the St. Peter paper for Kessel can send it to you as an email attachment? Then you could forward it to those of us who would like …
20 Oct 1998, 07:30
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A megatherium speaks (I believe that is what Mr. Borski invoked, though he spelled it wrong): I have always taken Palaemon's slip in Shadow XIII--asked where Thrax is, he says "Do…
18 Oct 1998, 16:59
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Alex, If you have the time and patience (I gather you're typing, not scanning), would you please, please put in Simon Magus (he corresponds to Ceryx in our books) as well as Sever…
16 Oct 1998, 19:20
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From AD Groce responding to alga: Well, I did say "playfully cynical;" what if we change it to wry? But I didn't say that Wolfe was/is a heretic. I said that in his grand sword '…
15 Oct 1998, 21:03
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Well, actually, corncrake, I was speaking Buddhistically. Note that I said "next life," not "next world." Heh heh. -alga…
15 Oct 1998, 13:20
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I went to the Catholic Encyclopedia- http://www.knight.org/advent/ - to see more about Severian, but the article has not yet been transcribed. Bear with me a moment while I rhapso…
15 Oct 1998, 11:25
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From mantis Oh, it does make me happy. What can I do with it? Hmm. Well, the first thing I can say with confidence is that is that, in a long book where virtually 100 percent of t…
15 Oct 1998, 08:49
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Whoops, I'm so rusty at this point that I posted to the wrong list. I can't imagine that any of you don't get the Whorl list, but if that is so and you want the complete OED listin…
15 Oct 1998, 08:22
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Well, god bless my boots and whiskers, I never thought to look here--I must say, mantis, hats are off to you once again. I'm quoting the whole OED entry this time, citations and al…
14 Oct 1998, 23:15
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From Robert Borski Well, I suppose flattery will coax me out of sulkdom for a moment. First, Mr. B., unlike prion, who is almost your equal in groundless invention, I must say tha…
13 Oct 1998, 23:34
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From the Oxford book of English Christian names: OWEN: a common Welsh name; in Middle English romances often spelled Owain, Owayne, Ywain. It has been supposed to be derived from …
18 Jul 1998, 03:16
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Rostrum, you ought to coax Zvi onto our list, He sounds feisty, thoughtful and articulate. Oh, and btw, I agree with him. Perhaps Wolfe should start watching the summer reruns of…
30 Jun 1998, 16:56
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Yeah, nice doggie, Snow White. -alga-…
29 Jun 1998, 16:49
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Oh ye of little faith, observe. These are citations from the text, Claw, Timescape edition. 284: "...and as I studied her face I had come to doubt that she was an old woman at all…
28 Jun 1998, 11:52
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James, Thanks for bringing this up again because I have a little theory about this that I forgot to post last time. We've often discussed the "other" Severians and how many there…
27 Jun 1998, 18:48
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With due respect, Sarge, sir, this becomes a ridiculous argument, similar to that of science-meister scolex. The two of you are replacing Wolfe's text with text of your own, yours …
24 Jun 1998, 19:31
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The Well, yes, I'm sure we will...but we're analyzing a Wolfe book where he plays by rules of his own. And a particular point in made re "Marsch's" eyes--they are mentioned as a c…
22 Jun 1998, 19:54
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Sgt. Rock, Nice to see you again, sir! You make a good argument wrt Marsch's humanity and villainy, but there's strong evidence against it, and that is his bright green eyes--the…
22 Jun 1998, 13:38
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Neal, I think the tool use is important because (1) in Marsch's interviews it is brought up again and again (2) it's a kind of clue for us supplied by Wolfe. As for the "substance…
19 Jun 1998, 15:58
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Tony Ellis, I've never thought that #5 sees through VRT's impersonation. I've always assumed that he was just being offensive. As he says: "I had come to kill my father, and it wa…
17 Jun 1998, 11:43
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Dan'l doubts that there any abos left---that's not surprising since all the information we have about them is tainted. Early on, David says they're all dead as part of the debate M…
16 Jun 1998, 18:57
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From William Ansley: My own reaction, throughout this novella, was that Marsch was killing *far* more animals that seemed necessary for survival, that some of these animals may ha…
16 Jun 1998, 09:57
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scolex, That's pretty funny. For those of you who don't have a dictionary at hand (maybe I shouldn't assume anyone needs one, but I did), here's the def: "The larva or embryo prod…
15 Jun 1998, 20:13
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mantis!!! Chill, babe! My word, man, that was simply a lame excuse to make a bad joke about lameness! Has it come to this? Are you--our noble leader in so many ways--going to go …
15 Jun 1998, 19:41
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Maybe I should stick to one controversy at a time, but I'm squarely in step with SBear on that walking tower machine. I hadn't meant to be sarcastic (as someone seemed to think) wh…
15 Jun 1998, 17:05
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I'm not going to quote from prior messages because I'm at work and Ranjit, wisely I think, took away my ability to get the list here. But mantis has been hopping with rage (simulat…
15 Jun 1998, 12:29
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mantis, By coincidence, I'm just reading the new Pinsky tranlation of the Inferno (I'm a junkie; this is my seventh translation). Cantos V, XII, XXI mention the earthquake. It's n…
14 Jun 1998, 17:51
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mantis, I have not questioned V.R.T.'s half-abo state. Not only do I accept the fact that John V. Marsch has either absorbed in some way or been joined or taken over by V.R. T., I…
14 Jun 1998, 17:23
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Robert Borski is fond of his theory that Aunt Jeanine is actually an abo, and to that end has "hung fifty pounds of theory on nothing." I had considered a point by point refutation…
14 Jun 1998, 11:04
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Neal Smith writes: Excellent, Neal! I haven't had time to reread the second 2/3 of 5HC and I'd forgotten that. Good witness for my side against you-know-who-you-are (and no, I don…
11 Jun 1998, 23:56
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I've been putting off getting into this fray. However: Tony, what if we (or I, forsaking the editorial we) were to accept that "abos" came from Earth, but we then rejected the Gon…
10 Jun 1998, 21:37
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A "beard" in the sense of an opposite-sex escort to give the illusion of a heterosexual couple is a homo (and hetero, actually) sexual slang term that has been around for quite a w…
08 Jun 1998, 08:27
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There is a tiny template for the relationship between St. Croix and Ste. Anne, and that is the one that exists between the twin American Virgin islands St. Thomas and St. John (it'…
01 Jun 1998, 16:00
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Another book I think would appeal to this group is Hawksmoor, by Peter Ackroyd. I've read quite a lot of Ackroyd, but this is the one for you guys. It's a supernatural detective st…
28 May 1998, 00:23
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Matt: When GW agrees to be GoH at a convention, I'm sure he *insists* on a chair of massy gold <g>. Mark: Thanks for reminding me of The Quincunx, a book I've had it in the back…
28 May 1998, 00:14
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The mini-story "Cues" (in TIODD&OS&OS) is a fair example of what John Clute refers to as Wolfe's "onieric jeux d'esprit" (a phrase I enjoy). But I'll offer a midrash. First, when …
25 May 1998, 12:38
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J. Shultz asks about pedophilia--I don't think so--and about Sev's double dose of wounds, which I think will be answered by several, so I won't get into it, and also this: We neve…
23 May 1998, 10:23
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Rostrum, Though I agree with everything you said, don't forget that the claw, our claw, is drenched in Severian's blood. -alga-…
21 May 1998, 13:33
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Just as I was ready to leave it alone for good, I note that in F&FS Esther Friesner has played our game, also with the cast of the late (not terribly) lamented, for DUNE this time.…
20 May 1998, 14:57
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And another thing I've never quite understood. Why do the Autarch, and after him Severian, with the complicity of Father Inire, continue to subversively encourage the rebels, takin…
17 May 1998, 12:26
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Speaking of these major players, as mantis was doing if only en passant, it seems to me that Wolfe has left a distinctly loose thread in their regard. The New Sun, the great flood …
16 May 1998, 15:46
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Huh? Can one of you explain? -out-of-it alga-…
15 May 1998, 08:37
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Well, I kinda like Sir Alec as Mal. Let's toss Gurloes to Anthony Quinn; he's unsavory enough. Max von Sydow as Master Ash. Wolfe insists on giving him a long black beard, but I mu…
14 May 1998, 11:54
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Okay, there seems to be a consensus on Sir John as Palaemon. Can we then give Malrubius to Sir Alec and Old Valeria to Dame Maggie? And is Sir Ralph still with us?--he could be mem…
14 May 1998, 07:43
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Okay, we've got lots of serious subjects cooking. How about a frivolous one? Surely all of us have an an occasional fantasy of a dream production of these books. Who would you cast…
12 May 1998, 21:00
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Well, I'm not going to touch most of that mantic limbic conjecture, but I will note that Hethor does indeed have a set of mirrors by which he manipulates his beasties--Father Inire…
12 May 1998, 08:35
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Here's another recommendation: -The Magus-, by John Fowles. -alga-…
11 May 1998, 12:48
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