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From: Kieran Cleary <kcleary at jb.man.ac.uk>> Subject: Re: (whorl) Pig, Godling It fashed my een! And my kin are Scottish on my mother's side--which made it all the more irritating!…
13 Feb 2001, 18:03
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From mantis: Big "Blade Runner" and other snip. I don't have an actual physical copy of RttW handy, so I can't be specific on details. But I really do have problems with the book…
12 Feb 2001, 12:00
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This bothered me more than anything else in the book (and there were other things that did too--I'm less happy with this book than some of the rest of you seem to be). The godling …
10 Feb 2001, 16:37
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From D'l D-O: I have never, ever understood this PoV, though I have heard it voiced again and again. There seems (to me) to be a political, or perhaps religious, anger against thi…
08 Feb 2001, 21:28
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Found it! It's a tropical weed called mimosa pudica or sensitive-plant, with little pink blossoms. It can be grown as an annual in the North or in greenhouses, where visitors will …
04 Feb 2001, 10:16
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I say we do, and we should. People who haven't read it should simply avoid the whorl list for the moment. That's the way we did it before, and it worked fine. I also really object …
04 Feb 2001, 09:08
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Ratty, Mark Millman is surely right--you are thinking of fairies and cold iron, and we ain't got none of those here. Inhumi have no supernatural resistances or weaknesses; they are…
30 Jan 2001, 20:19
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I can't say that I've thought this through, but it's interesting that Horn says over and over again that being in the pit from which he was rescued by Krait was the most traumatizi…
23 Jan 2001, 17:55
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Those of you who have access to The New York Review of Science Fiction should by all means check out the new issue. Michael Andre-Driussi (our mantis) has the cover story, a perfec…
15 Jan 2001, 07:57
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Hope Very helpful. Thank you. -alga…
10 Jan 2001, 03:22
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I'm awfully glad this came up because I have a completely unrelated question that I'd like to throw out--perhaps anyone with an answer could contact me by email rather than clog up…
07 Jan 2001, 08:51
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Nope <g>. -alga *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun.…
31 Dec 2000, 23:34
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Have to disagree with Wm. here. I don't think Steve should start with -Peace-. That is not the sort of book that gets people fascinated with Wolfe; it's the one they tackle when th…
29 Dec 2000, 16:25
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Here's a movie I think would appeal to many on this list. It's an artist's (An Lee)approach to genre material, in this case the chop-sockie Hong Kong flick. God knows it's not ever…
17 Dec 2000, 11:21
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IMO, this early review for booksellers does not include spoilers (yes, I am also one of the people you can put on your hate list), but if you are super-sensitive, you may want to s…
15 Dec 2000, 20:18
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Tony, I find this eerie. When I skimmed your post in the digest I did not notice your subject line. I thought you were proposing 5HC as a prototype of the Short Sun situation, and …
05 Dec 2000, 20:48
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From Wombat: And Blattid: I should emerge more often. I'm chuckling. -alga *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun.…
28 Nov 2000, 20:45
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What does "blattid" mean? It's not in the OED. -alga *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun.…
27 Nov 2000, 20:10
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From Adam: I don't think it's a quarter as good as TDoDI. It's too disjointed; the gothic elements don't come together. Mouse and Owl, Smoky, the parents in the freezer, Corporal …
21 Sep 2000, 20:05
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Yes, I noticed this too; I put it down to authorial slip-up. She is good at story-telling, though, thus composition in the larger sense. Scylla isn't riding Oreb here. The voice c…
10 Sep 2000, 13:40
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Said Dr. Gevers: I'm not sure about the swimming expedition, though it's perfectly possible and nicely tidy. Nor does Sev's life seem to me to resemble Silk/Horn's in any real way…
07 Sep 2000, 18:52
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Dan Schmidt asked re Seawrack: So I looked in the OED and here is the earliest citation pasted in, verbatim: 1551 Turner Herbal i. K iv, Alga..is commonly called in englyshe see …
06 Sep 2000, 23:37
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A mole has just sent me "The Night Chough." I will photocopy and send this to anyone who requests it (yes, overseas OK). Address akt at attglobal.net or (better) al at playboy.com . Let …
30 Aug 2000, 22:01
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the Green-Blue-Green transmission route. Do I have this right? An inhuma flies to Blue from Green during a conjunction and then spends the next seven years attempting to slake her …
30 Aug 2000, 20:59
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It couldn't have been sex; we know that from Jahlee's troubles. But what if Krait's mother were already gravid (or about to be, or whatever they do) and the first bite imprinted th…
27 Aug 2000, 22:54
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I can't believe I'm becoming a Secret sharer in any way. But please have a look at IGJ 81-83. This is the scene where the Secret is actually imparted and Horn does understand it "a…
27 Aug 2000, 22:29
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From Sieur Borski: The Red Sun Whorl is, of course, Urth. And if Urth is Earth in any way Scylla is indeed a sea-monster of ancient mythology. But I have no idea why wicked Mr. Wo…
26 Aug 2000, 11:29
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I got the Tor winter catalogue yesterday and there is a b&w reproduction of the next book's cover in it. For Feb. A huge odd-but-benign looking (eyes too close together; actually h…
24 Aug 2000, 18:42
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Said William: Not so; we'd all been counting eyes, but you got there first. Mr. Borski: This may well be true in "The Night Chough," which only you and mantis seem to have read.…
24 Aug 2000, 18:13
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Nacre said: I was looking through H. R. Ellis Davidson's -Gods and Myths of Northern Europe- (for reasons entirely unrelated to this list) and was struck by this pair of sentences…
24 Aug 2000, 10:19
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From Alex : OK, I didn't say that it was a template, only that it reminded me of Origen's system. Regard: a dynamic system is inherently more interesting than a static one, and ev…
23 Aug 2000, 23:45
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Nick G: I disagree with almost all the specifics that Pat. Rat puts forth with regard to this series, but I agree with him that it is theologically conceived. To me, it illustrat…
22 Aug 2000, 10:16
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Oh, and I forgot lame Haephestus, aka Vulcan, and lame Wayland the Smith (Volund) in Scandanavian myth. And Daedalus, also lame, Ithink. Craftsmen these, whereas Wolfe's guys are a…
21 Aug 2000, 20:26
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Patera Rat put forth (on another subject altogether): That limp doesn't go just with Claudius. That limp is important to classical mythology in general. There's Oedipus--"swollen-…
21 Aug 2000, 19:44
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Hey, that was just a little Endymion joke that I couldn't resist, nothing more. And I bet you understand this stuff just as well as anyone else does. -alga *This is WHORL, for d…
20 Aug 2000, 11:18
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Wombat enquired: Hell, no, though he might be asleep at the wheel! -alga *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun.…
19 Aug 2000, 15:16
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----- Original Message ----- From: <urth-errors at lists.best.com> To: <urth at lists.best.com> Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 7:10 AM Subject: Digest urth.v029.n050 Wombat asked: Well…
18 Aug 2000, 09:25
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I think I can enlarge on that. Remember that Crowley has a day job too. Unlike that of most novelists, it involves writing. He is a specialist in providing narrative to documentary…
17 Aug 2000, 07:20
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Furthermore, with that beautiful last sentence, Horn is protecting Jahlee in the best way he can. As he tried, unsuccessfuly to protect poor cold-blooded Fava in the wintry night, …
16 Aug 2000, 18:18
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Thanks for the vote of confidence, several of you. I have a thought about Horn's eating habits, which certainly puzzled me too on first reading. It's awfully Wolfean. The fact is t…
16 Aug 2000, 18:04
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My immediate reaction is outrage. That seems to me like the horrible yahoo Southern racism of the civil rights era when to sympathize was to compromise in the minds (so-called) of …
16 Aug 2000, 05:01
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They are one big novel. They will have taken almost 25 years to write when he is done, and you may wonder if they are worth it. Of course I'm up to my eyebrows at the moment, so I …
12 Aug 2000, 14:29
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Adam's LB=Alice scheme? Are you trying to torture us? No, it's just that he denied it. Adam can post. The reason for not doing the entire interview is (a) that I haven't finished…
11 Aug 2000, 08:58
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Got the book today and brought it home. And hid it from my houseguest! Whoa--that cover! An amalgam of Ben Franklin and Joe Lieberman takes a stroll with an octopoidal Highwayman! …
09 Aug 2000, 17:35
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QUESTIONS FROM THE LIST Mantis: In the AEgypt series, is JC really talking about the decline and fall of the glorious 60s into the ugly 70s rather than any other cryptic secret r…
08 Aug 2000, 18:28
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I've transcribed the part of my interview that answers questions sent by mantis, William, Adam. Shall I email them individually, or is there enough interest from the list to merit …
07 Aug 2000, 17:23
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This is very last-minute, but I will be doing my "real" interview with John Crowley tomorrow, and I invite anyone who has questions to send them to me. William, I have your Edward …
03 Aug 2000, 09:45
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From William: Well, my knowledge is pretty limited, but from what mantis and Patrick (both of whom seem to be in hibernation) have told us, Wolfe doesn't even use email. Many peop…
01 Aug 2000, 19:43
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Hi Ian, and welcome, No, I think it is, as has been discussed quite recently, Horn's transfer to Silk's body, with Silk's powerful gene-spliced leadership DNA having an effect on …
31 Jul 2000, 22:46
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Wrote Nigel: Nigel, after the symposium will you post your paper? Or at least email it to interested people like me, and I bet quite a few others? -alga…
26 Jul 2000, 20:31
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