Posted from 8 addresses as Alice Turner, Alice K. Turner, akt, aturner3
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Skipping a great deal of verbiage, here's one Wolfe quote from Roy: "Yours is a race of pawns," Tzadkiel told me. "You move forward only, unless we move you back to begin the …
25 Apr 1999, 12:13
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And just what is your definition of supernatural? I don't think I need to go into detail with this group, but please consider the many manifestations of Zak/Tzadkiel: are these "na…
24 Apr 1999, 13:36
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Now wait a sec here. Tzadkiel is not Michael but s/he certainly is an angel, not an archangel like Michael, but a sufficiently great and important being for Urth/Ushas. S/he is the…
23 Apr 1999, 08:54
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Could you enlarge on this a bit? I'm not quite following. -alga…
21 Apr 1999, 22:32
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My, that is a peculiar cover! Hard to believe it was done to order for this book---it's like something they found in a cupboard and decided to slap on just to save money. -alga…
18 Apr 1999, 11:37
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Hey, Agilus and potto! Not bad--I like bad-guy names. And Jonathan, of course, not such a bad guy. Potto, that's a great premise, but it's risky to predict Wolfe. Of course Anne R…
08 Apr 1999, 21:09
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Thank you, Ranjit. It's a wonderful list, and without you we wouldn't have it. Um, with regard to the New Sun/White Fountain, I bow to you boys in your physics calculations, but I…
06 Apr 1999, 19:23
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William, I think you've done a great job, and that you should polish it up and publish it somewhere. About the wings: This is a peculiar thing that Wolfe does sometimes---look at …
18 Mar 1999, 20:21
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John Bishop, corncrake, You are certainly onto something! Here's just a thought, taken from the Britannica: the explorer-missionary David Livingston's father-in-law, Robert Moffat…
16 Mar 1999, 18:20
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Rev, You are a fine (even needed) addition to this group. IMHO. -alga…
20 Feb 1999, 14:39
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Well, yeah, I bet they did. Maybe Apollonius Rhodus, Apollodorus or Plato, all of whom tell the story. Or, in Wolfe's case, Graves, who cites them. Whee, I can post again! -alga …
20 Feb 1999, 14:35
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William Ansley, Thanks for your Oz-Eyeflash material, which I would have helped you with except that I've been unable to post. Here's another try. The Munchkins (blue) are usually…
04 Feb 1999, 07:48
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Thanks to those who responded re McKillip. I'm happy to report that I've done a 180 on this assignment. The book I want to recommend to this butch bunch is SONG FOR THE BASILISK, d…
20 Jan 1999, 06:47
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Begging your pardons, but hoping the group might appreciate someting novel to focus on for a minute or two, I'd like to solicit your opinions, very much including lurkers' opinions…
16 Jan 1999, 23:41
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I've been reading it too. Santa sent it <g>. -alga…
15 Jan 1999, 21:33
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Stephen et al, I too think -The Moonstone- holds up wonderfully well, especially considering what a pioneer it was, 1868, decades before the great adventure fiction of the end of …
05 Jan 1999, 20:35
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Re Jonathan's clockwork query: The idea of the "mechanical (or clockwork) universe" dates back as far as the 14th c, but became really influential in the just pre-Enlightened lat…
12 Dec 1998, 11:59
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Er, ahem, let me note parentheticially that not only metaphorically and mystically, but in some sense literally, the sexual union of Sev and Apheta does indeed create or conceive t…
04 Dec 1998, 18:55
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Actually, according to something I read somewhere lately (don't you love that?--such a perfect Usenet reference), perhaps an article in The Atlantic, Jesus may well have spoken som…
02 Dec 1998, 19:04
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Michael Andre-Driussi's address, for business purposes, is: Sirius Fiction P.O. Box 460430 San Francisco, CA 94146 But I think he'd gladly take email orders from us. Don't forget…
27 Nov 1998, 13:00
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Nigel, How very nice to have a Virgilist aboard, and, even better, a Virgilist with a Vulgate concordance on his hard drive! Welcome. If you get too impatient to wait for your dai…
27 Nov 1998, 12:44
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Here is a message from David Hartwell concerning the new book. I asked him if we could get a group discount for advance orders. It seems to me strange that he says no--group discou…
24 Nov 1998, 01:57
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I wouldn't dare post this if the list weren't somewhat comatose, but here's something I just read that I thought might speak to the Weer group (of which I am not one). No chance th…
13 Nov 1998, 00:06
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From Wombat: Well, hmmm, the second. I've never read a word of -Sandman-; I suppose I should. Though I cottoned to Gaiman right away as an interesting short story writer. That "T…
07 Nov 1998, 17:54
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He's turning up everywhere. I've just started to read Harold Bloom's -Shakespeare: The Invention of the Human-. On p 10: "Though G.K. Chesterton liked to think that Shakespeare wa…
06 Nov 1998, 20:31
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How interesting to read in that Borges site (for which, thanks) that both Neil Gaiman and Umberto Eco are fond of G.K. Chesterton. -alga…
06 Nov 1998, 16:35
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Shady to me too. Not my idea of a 3-D character. Hell of a story-teller, though. -alga…
05 Nov 1998, 12:43
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Greg, I don't think it's "explained," but does it need to be? Once you've had a look at Echidna and Scylla in action, wouldn't you do your best to keep them off-screen as well? Plu…
04 Nov 1998, 09:22
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they [snip] Oh, I agree, and could easily find other examples, even from Gilgamesh. (Why are you reading Butler, btw, did you download it? There are some splendid more modern tra…
03 Nov 1998, 08:45
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A letter I read today in the New York Review of Books can be seen as support for the theological reading of Silk. It responds to an essay by Simon Leys entitled "The Imitation of O…
02 Nov 1998, 18:50
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Heh heh. *This is WHORL, for discussion of Gene Wolfe's Book of the Long Sun.…
02 Nov 1998, 01:38
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My goodness, that seems a bit much. My own opinion simply is that Hy is No Better Than She Should Be and also Big Trouble, and that we haven't heard the last of her--she's much too…
02 Nov 1998, 01:33
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I think Mothman is really onto something here. Jaynes's book was published in 1979 in the US and caused the most tremendous furor--it was a real whoop-de-do. -Soldier of the Mist- …
29 Oct 1998, 19:46
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One strong argument against Miles and Jolenta's being actual siblings (or lookalikes) is that *Jolenta* doesn't look like Jolenta. The original is a plain serving girl whom Dr. Tal…
29 Oct 1998, 17:39
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Just think, if Mark and Dan got into an altercation, and Dan won, we could say, Nacre really got shellacked, didn't he?" and he (Mark) could reply, "Well, I was knackered." Okay, …
22 Oct 1998, 20:47
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I've vainly been digging around to find my copy of -Hebrew Myths- by Graves and someone else--not a patch on -Greek Myths-, but still....can't find it. Anyway, the most famous (and…
22 Oct 1998, 08:52
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ooopsie! Given Wolfe's age, Marlene Dietrich as Lola Lola in "The Blue Angel" is probably more along the lines of what he was thinking of. Madonna is only a brassy imitation. -al…
21 Oct 1998, 08:02
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Alex, Why don't you see if your friend who wrote the St. Peter paper for Kessel can send it to you as an email attachment? Then you could forward it to those of us who would like …
20 Oct 1998, 07:30
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No argument, but the "horror" world is not the real world. Since the author's intent is to give frissons to the reader, everything, good and bad, is exaggerated. I think "pagan" i…
19 Oct 1998, 20:05
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Thanks, Alex, for the CE "Severus" and "Severian." Actually, I think I prefer the lite OED version, where one can fill in the blanks oneself. -alga…
18 Oct 1998, 21:00
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A megatherium speaks (I believe that is what Mr. Borski invoked, though he spelled it wrong): I have always taken Palaemon's slip in Shadow XIII--asked where Thrax is, he says "Do…
18 Oct 1998, 16:59
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Alex, If you have the time and patience (I gather you're typing, not scanning), would you please, please put in Simon Magus (he corresponds to Ceryx in our books) as well as Sever…
16 Oct 1998, 19:20
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From AD Groce responding to alga: Well, I did say "playfully cynical;" what if we change it to wry? But I didn't say that Wolfe was/is a heretic. I said that in his grand sword '…
15 Oct 1998, 21:03
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Well, actually, corncrake, I was speaking Buddhistically. Note that I said "next life," not "next world." Heh heh. -alga…
15 Oct 1998, 13:20
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I went to the Catholic Encyclopedia- http://www.knight.org/advent/ - to see more about Severian, but the article has not yet been transcribed. Bear with me a moment while I rhapso…
15 Oct 1998, 11:25
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From mantis Oh, it does make me happy. What can I do with it? Hmm. Well, the first thing I can say with confidence is that is that, in a long book where virtually 100 percent of t…
15 Oct 1998, 08:49
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Whoops, I'm so rusty at this point that I posted to the wrong list. I can't imagine that any of you don't get the Whorl list, but if that is so and you want the complete OED listin…
15 Oct 1998, 08:22
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Well, god bless my boots and whiskers, I never thought to look here--I must say, mantis, hats are off to you once again. I'm quoting the whole OED entry this time, citations and al…
14 Oct 1998, 23:15
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From Robert Borski Well, I suppose flattery will coax me out of sulkdom for a moment. First, Mr. B., unlike prion, who is almost your equal in groundless invention, I must say tha…
13 Oct 1998, 23:34
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From the Oxford book of English Christian names: OWEN: a common Welsh name; in Middle English romances often spelled Owain, Owayne, Ywain. It has been supposed to be derived from …
18 Jul 1998, 03:16