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07 Feb 2003, 18:28
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He he he . . . I love MacDonald, But I agree, he's DEFINITELY kinky. But it's the Goddess, you see. Mother R*d**bt. :) She demands the status of divinity. And if you won…
22 Jan 2003, 13:19
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This really is awfully good. ----- Original Message -----…
20 Jan 2003, 18:35
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Only because I don't know a better one. I had resolved to call it "Christian Mythopoeic Fabulation" - but the fact is it could as well be done in, for example, an Islamic world, i…
20 Jan 2003, 17:50
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C S Lewis, PERELANDRA, first chapter somewhere As to my intense wish never to come into contact with the eldila myself, I am not sure whether I can make you understand it. It …
20 Jan 2003, 17:17
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----- Original Message ----- The whole point of Catholic Fabulation is this. "One thinks in one mood, for example, of fairies, elves and goblins - and in quite another of Mr Wel…
20 Jan 2003, 17:12
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The point is, you can, just about, write CF and not be Christian. In the same way that you can, just about, be a Catholic and not be Christian. :) OK, not literally. But …
17 Jan 2003, 19:09
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OK. Do you have a better term than "Catholic fabulation?" It seems that would resolve our remaining differences. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <ddaneh…
17 Jan 2003, 18:39
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---- Original Message ----- I should explain that reading C S Lewis's books converted me to Christianity when I was young (but I got better) , and I was an obsessive fan of Lewis,…
17 Jan 2003, 17:03
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----- Original Message ----- No, he was a Mere Christian. But he wrote CATHOLIC FABULATION. Which is essentially science fiction that presumes the Catholic God really, objectiv…
17 Jan 2003, 16:25
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----- Original Message ----- I think we have to look to what seems to be that traditional mode of Catholic Fabulation, the creation of "little gods". To put it baldly, Catholicis…
17 Jan 2003, 11:11
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Chesterton is an obvious root of Wolfe's writing. ----- Original Message -----…
08 Jan 2003, 21:13
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Oh dear. Yes, I think that is the reason Wolfe said this. I had forgot he is an engineer. hartshorn ----- Original Message ----- The…
05 Jan 2003, 10:18
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Um, I disagree. The original picaresque novels did not have the grace of a fantastic **deus ex machina** every three paragraphs. Love Vance, hate THE DYING EARTH (except the fi…
21 Dec 2002, 00:04
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The fact is that, while I don't believe that Blue/Green are Ushas/Lune, it does ring true on a deep level. I have been puzzling over this. All I can suggest is that Blue/Green a…
10 Dec 2002, 22:10
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I have BA in Physics. You get a BA in Physics unless you go to One Of Those Other Universities. ----- Original Message -----…
20 Nov 2002, 15:38
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----- Original Message ----- Possibly, and what of it? I'd bet any amount that it is the Catholic sources that Wolfe is drawing from. And modern theoretical physics IS descended…
18 Nov 2002, 21:28
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Shoot, I'd have to do the maths: and there is an end to all civility. I think it is quite clear that Wolfe shows FTL travel to be a doorway to a divine realm. Consider the Shi…
18 Nov 2002, 20:32
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See Typhon's discourse to Severian . . I don't have it to hand but it includes something along the lines of "the scientists were wrong - solar radiation declined two parts in a t…
18 Nov 2002, 19:51
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This is not quite accurate. What is accurate is that travelling FTL in one inertial frame, from the point of view of one observer, will **always** be travelling back in time in a…
18 Nov 2002, 19:48
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Meep. Sorry. ----- Original Message -----…
14 Nov 2002, 21:02
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Ah! Another link! I had not made the MacBeth connection. But by an odd coincidence, this is the second time that play has come up in two days. Last night I was singing in a fo…
13 Nov 2002, 21:50
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Interesting. I had never made this connection, I confess. The Green man (or Green Knight) is a god figure that later became an elf/fay/sidhe in Northern legend. I am not at all…
13 Nov 2002, 16:47
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I think craws = crows, which took a part earlier: I can't entirely remember what hartshorn ---- Original Message -----…
13 Nov 2002, 14:51
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Boethius, AD 400, IIRC hartshorn ----- Original Message ----- perspective…
02 Nov 2002, 16:47
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also hartshorn Apostolou & Martin H. Greenberg, Dembner 1987; tr. by James B. Harris…
31 Oct 2002, 17:58
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I obtain this from fictiomags hartshorn…
31 Oct 2002, 17:36
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The most tremendous modern fictional work based on Gnosticism is A VOYAGE TO ARCTURUS - and I *don't* think Wolfe derived much from this incredibly savage and *deeply* pessimistic…
28 Oct 2002, 17:20
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----- Original Message ----- Rather Hellenic or Nordic than Middle Eastern, I think. The enfolding of the impulse to address the divine (which Silk feels and expresses in his *fa…
23 Oct 2002, 15:47
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I have been kind of out of things for the past few weeks, but I will just drop a note about life expectancy: It has **always** been the case that someone who reaches 20 can expec…
19 Oct 2002, 15:46
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----- Original Message ----- Indeed. This is played upon in the relationship between Baldanders and Dr Talos. Baldanders' last words to Severian - "You are wrong. I am the mas…
06 Oct 2002, 17:49
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----- Original Message ----- Wolfe is their creator, of course . . . . .. Yes. When I read Wolfe, sometimes I feel I am in there, rendered into something . . . . . . not a do…
28 Sep 2002, 00:47
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IMHO the real root is the nursery/toy/steadfast tin solder vibe seen well in "The War Beneath The Tree". As I reflect, it seems to me that all Wolfe's artificial people- from the…
26 Sep 2002, 19:23
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Obviously Jonas did this hartshorn ----- Original Message -----…
25 Sep 2002, 18:23
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----- Original Message ----- I agree: but may remark that it was only one thread I thought "loony". Thanks for this elucidaton of PEACE, a work I must re-read and pay some real a…
14 Sep 2002, 17:47
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----- Original Message ----- I suppose we had better be careful not to make this a debate on the merits of Smith vs Wolfe. However I will remark that they are indeed stylstic op…
11 Sep 2002, 04:30
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----- Original Message ----- "The Quest Of Saint Aquin" would seem another possible precursor. hartshorn…
09 Sep 2002, 18:18
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----- Original Message ----- I'd love to know how: but I won't ask. hartshorn…
09 Sep 2002, 18:14
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----- Original Message ----- Hmmm. Actually I can see that he might not like the religious themes involved. They are powerful and fundamental to the science fiction, but they are…
09 Sep 2002, 18:11
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Yes. At 46, I really should not be moved to tears when I read again a passage from an SF story I have read thirty or forty times before. Thank you for the information on Wolfe an…
09 Sep 2002, 16:30
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The robots in "The Dead Lady Of Clown Town". Lady Panc Ashash, stuck in a robot body as a travel guide: and the fighter robots sent to kill D'Joan <quote> This is what we all …
09 Sep 2002, 14:30
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Actually, Smith's robots too. And that is a linkage I had not really considered. The robots in Smith's stories may be precursors of the chems and of the many "moral" mechanisms …
09 Sep 2002, 14:15
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Yes, even then. You cannae break the laws of physics, captain, etc etc. hartshorn ----- Original Message -----…
09 Sep 2002, 13:58
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But:: Fusion would create a neutron flux which would turn many of the ordinary elements the generator was composed of into radioactive isotopes. Particularly if the generator had …
09 Sep 2002, 04:38
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Surely this is a reference to "alchemy"? Plus, the Golem's written sigil was called a "chem". hartshorn ----- Original Message -----…
05 Sep 2002, 17:05
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Just a thought. Auk is to Silk as Hildegrin is to Severian? Hildegrin is in some ways Severian's dark/underworld/criminal twin. He is present at the rebirth of Severian's mothe…
03 Sep 2002, 15:29
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----- Original Message ----- Um! Wolfe deliberately gave the chems souls. Whatever "soul" is, they have it as much as do the bios. After all bios are just machines, too. You…
03 Sep 2002, 05:00
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Ah well, I love it anyway. But the idea that Hyacinth is a transsexual bio does seem slightly more probable, I confess: though I really see no need for it. hartshorn ----…
02 Sep 2002, 07:18
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I have been offlist for a while and just got back. I now fear I am suffering a disconnect from reality. Is it really possible that all the discussions on this list have been this…
31 Aug 2002, 18:24
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----- Original Message ----- Writing is like all other ways of dealing with reality. Ultimately, you know, we write our own narrative of life: we create our own book, as we live…
27 Aug 2002, 17:08
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