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----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan'l Danehy-Oakes" <ddanehy at siebel.com> Annoying? Never!!! "pish-tosh" does not indicate annoyance!!…
31 Jul 2002, 00:02
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----- Original Message ----- Oh, pish-tosh. I'm not "granting Orwell primacy." I'm granting SF primacy. And you perfectly well know that this null-A Korzybski stuff is only rel…
30 Jul 2002, 22:13
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----- Original Message ----- Again, not relevant, though pithy. Some words can be cut out, but it's not the same thing as the massive restructuring Orwell was diagramming…
29 Jul 2002, 22:50
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----- Original Message ----- But it is obvious. The fact that the Ascians can speak *only* in the phrases known as Correct Thought matches the fact that Orwell's inhabitants of O…
29 Jul 2002, 18:39
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----- Original Message ----- I am almost certain this is not the case. I am very familiar with Chesterton's work and life, and while you are of course right that he is a model f…
28 Jul 2002, 22:05
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----- Original Message ----- Can any educated person be ignorant of this? I think it was I who bought up the Orwell reference: but I assumed everyone knew about Newspeak. :-) …
28 Jul 2002, 09:43
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----- Original Message ----- Bravo indeed. I think we simply have to face the fact that the poetic elements of the "Dying Earth" which Wolfe put in can not be rigorously justifie…
17 Jul 2002, 14:12
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----- Original Message ----- Seems obvious enough. More to the point, it is obviously the best policy for colonising a new world, preserving the greatest variability and making s…
16 Jul 2002, 15:53
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e ----- Original Message ----- They are common, Dorcas' extreme blondness is not remarked upon. I never really understood this point. Isn't there somewhere in the BOTNS where S…
16 Jul 2002, 08:24
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Not at all. Massive mixing of populations is historcally a very new thing, the consequence of massive, fast, travel, and that has stopped in Severian's time for reasons of techno…
16 Jul 2002, 07:18
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----- Original Message ----- I think I got the essence of the Silk/Hyacinth relationship right. It was the ultimate mutually destructive love, and that was its point. harts…
13 Jul 2002, 16:42
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What people are persistently failing to acknowledge, though Wolfe flags it again and again, is that Hyacinth was a bad woman, and disastrous for Silk. Silk's near suicide on the …
13 Jul 2002, 14:58
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----- Original Message ----- Having read this passage several times, I believe that Wolfe meant the ambiguity and that it therefore cannot be resolved by us. One point, however, …
13 Jul 2002, 05:24
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----- Original Message ----- The Vironese faith is obviously based on ancient greek religion, with some inpout from other Indo-European polytheisms: The maor thematic links are t…
17 Jun 2002, 05:26
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----- Original Message ----- An Astronmical Unit. The average distance between the Urthand the Sun. 93,000,000 miles and some odd. It is very easy to determine the size of the …
17 Jun 2002, 04:32
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----- Original Message ----- Interesting thought. The Sapir-Whorf hypothesis has a long pedigree in SF (cf Vance THE LANGUAGES OF PAO) but is almost certinly untrue. In fact w…
12 Jun 2002, 21:55
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Hmm!! You are right. Apologies. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Stephanides" <adamsteph at earthlink.net> To: <urth at urth.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 4:49 PM Sub…
12 Jun 2002, 17:00
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It is logical and straightforward. It is called Quantum Electrodynamics. hartshorn ----- Original Message -----…
12 Jun 2002, 15:28
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----- Original Message ----- Umm, Boethieus, *De Consolatione Philosophae* . . . hartshorn…
11 Jun 2002, 16:56
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----- Original Message ----- It is obvious that it is derived from 1984 and Nuspeak. The idea that the Ascian's war may be derived from the eternal war between Oceana/Eastasia/E…
11 Jun 2002, 07:45
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----- Original Message ----- I think this is a meaningless distinction. Their minds are not responsible for it. But the mind/body duality, even if it has some truth for human…
01 Jun 2002, 19:49
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----- Original Message ----- It is not the character of Reality to be other than Dangerous. Rather, the Real presents us with a series of Tests, each more unbearable than the one…
01 Jun 2002, 19:37
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Have a good time: there is no chance of my being there, much as I'd like to be. ----- Original Message -----…
01 Jun 2002, 19:13
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----- Original Message ----- Are you sure it is not that you are seeing what is really in TBOTSS and are now disliking it? In my opinion TBOTSS is a far more serious book. It is…
31 May 2002, 20:36
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----- Original Message ----- Well, I'm glad you do at least. hartshorn…
31 May 2002, 20:31
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----- Original Message ----- As a matter if fact, Evolutionary Psychology is the key to understanding the whole mess. There is a case of a planarian that infests a type of wate…
31 May 2002, 16:17
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----- Original Message ----- The ghost-soul in the inhumi may attain to a sort of human virtue. The flesh remains evil. Of course the question is whether "evil" in this context…
30 May 2002, 14:31
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----- Original Message ----- Ohhhhhh to be there!!!!!! hartshorn…
30 May 2002, 11:54
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----- Original Message ----- I do think they are fascinating, but I don't agree: Or rather, I'd like to agree, but I am not (yet) convinced. These old stories have been selecte…
29 May 2002, 17:54
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----- Original Message ----- Now then, let's stay within the bounds of reality, shall we? hartshorn…
29 May 2002, 17:49
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----- Original Message ----- Right. I think I agree with you here. hartshorn…
28 May 2002, 20:08
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----- Original Message ----- Why not? Our own minds *right down to our deepest souls* are no more than a genetic ghost conjured up by our bodies, to serve evolutionary drives. T…
28 May 2002, 18:07
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----- Original Message ----- Why on Urth not? Doubts and uncertainties are hardly alien to the Lupverse. hartshorn…
28 May 2002, 17:38
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----- Original Message ----- It happened to me. On my first reading of 5HC as a young twentysomething I thought if a fine bit of writing but rather confused, fragmentary plotwi…
26 May 2002, 15:04
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----- Original Message ----- From: Allan Lloyd It's just you feeling grumpy. ;-) No. I can see it. I have even had the experience of reading the SS books and having it come o…
25 May 2002, 22:20
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----- Original Message ----- Comment freely, but only where relevant to Wolfe's work Wolfe is not biologising *human* evil. If he did I would read with interest, mind you. But…
22 May 2002, 17:30
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----- Original Message ----- I refer to depictions of race and gender in literature and the media, not real life. I repeat that you should read Wolfe with an eye to these thing…
22 May 2002, 06:49
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----- Original Message ----- Well, back where we were then. Why "tie"? And how/why is this specifically linked to being uncircumcised? hartshorn…
21 May 2002, 15:46
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----- Original Message ----- If 251, Whoops. The problem is my Quartet edition, which has this misprint "they would *tie*, the two of them" Problem solved, and apologi…
21 May 2002, 08:09
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----- Original Message ----- But there is a simple point to understand here. Contemporary western morality enforces a deeply unreal hierarchy of virtue based on class, gender, an…
21 May 2002, 07:51
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----- Original Message ----- Yes, but - TDE really is one of those original, once-of-a-kind, novels. It seems imitative now only because it has been imitated so often. For exam…
20 May 2002, 18:46
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----- Original Message ----- Of course not: but the idea was a hell of a lot more novel and powerful then than it is now. I think there is also a cross-influence from Clark Ashto…
20 May 2002, 16:57
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How I wish it were true as well!! hartshorn ----- Original Message -----…
14 May 2002, 21:13
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Borski" <rborski at charter.net> Doubtless I've bolixed up the math I haven't read the story, alas. But if they are using base 9, then t…
14 May 2002, 21:13
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----- Original Message ----- It is 10 in any base whatever. No, no,no. All you need to know is that 7+7 = 15. You put 5 down and carry 1 making 25. It's a fascinating idea…
12 May 2002, 08:05
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----- Original Message ----- Uh Either: 1) They are actually from PLANET ZOG http://home.clara.net/andywrobertson/zogcount.html Or 2) The children are in their childish wa…
11 May 2002, 18:25
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Wilson" < No, it's not crap, but like most things about biology it is a rule rather than a law. But of course this is significant for wh…
11 May 2002, 07:49
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----- Original Message ----- Note, Dollo's law is about degeneration: the way an evolutionary talent, once lost, is never regained. This tells us something Victor at any rate bel…
10 May 2002, 18:11
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----- Original Message ----- Just a simple point. Abo lack of dexterity might be due to lack of practice, nothing else. The abos have a largely tool-less culture. If they d…
10 May 2002, 07:24
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----- Original Message ----- I don't have acces to APOCALYPSES, but I think this is where I remember the motif from. It was about forging statue(s), but not necessarily the Venu…
08 May 2002, 17:17
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