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Why think that how a society treats its prisoners will filter down to how people treat each other in general and not the reverse?…
12 Apr 2012, 20:11
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Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote (12-04-2012 19:31): (And obviously of intent and other subjective matters - but those are implied in the words 'murderer' (as opposed to 'killer'), 'r…
12 Apr 2012, 19:14
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Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote (12-04-2012 19:27): (What are the oods that someone serving a life sentence for a wrong conviction will be convicted for a brutal in-prison murder?)…
12 Apr 2012, 19:02
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David Stockhoff wrote (12-04-2012 19:40): If you never saw it, what can you know about what it explains or not? It's more fashionable not to care about innocents, n'est-ce pas? F…
12 Apr 2012, 18:47
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David Stockhoff wrote (12-04-2012 19:29): All we know about prisons we learned from Oz.…
12 Apr 2012, 18:33
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Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote (12-04-2012 19:27): Degree of in-principle-reversibility and extent of damage done to the victims. The same things that give it to anyone else, I suppose…
12 Apr 2012, 18:31
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David Stockhoff wrote (12-04-2012 18:35): Nonsense. Yeah, and if it can give them life sentences, it can give you life sentences. I don't care at all what happens to murderers. …
12 Apr 2012, 18:21
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Sergei SOLOVIEV wrote (12-04-2012 17:49): Not on my part. That's why I think some pragmatism is in order.…
12 Apr 2012, 17:25
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David Stockhoff wrote (12-04-2012 17:39): Beats posthumous rehabilitation.…
12 Apr 2012, 17:23
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David Stockhoff wrote (12-04-2012 17:37): We're talking about someone who was already serving a life sentence and then committed a brutal murder. Cry me a river. If such an indiv…
12 Apr 2012, 17:22
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Someone is serving a life sentence for whatever crime. Should they commit murder there, they'd be put in solitary confinement. I'm supposing they won't be able to commit any more…
12 Apr 2012, 16:32
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Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote (12-04-2012 17:09): There's solitary confinement.…
12 Apr 2012, 16:23
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That's all very well, Marc, but except in a very limited number of cases society can't be sure the person is really guilty, and laws aren't made for a very limited number of case…
12 Apr 2012, 15:46
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Marc Aramini wrote (12-04-2012 01:38): I'll say only this: last time I heard, the money spent with a death penalty in the US is way more than with a life sentence, due to the pro…
12 Apr 2012, 02:11
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DAVID STOCKHOFF wrote (11-04-2012 15:11): Look, it isn't like I haven't been following the issue for ages... I live in Europe, you know. Their opponents only began talking about …
11 Apr 2012, 15:18
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No dia 11/04/2012, ?s 12:49, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> escreveu: It's them claiming there is a demographic revolution going on, not their opponents. But it's *…
11 Apr 2012, 13:47
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Matthew Knight wrote (11-04-2012 05:15): You probably know better than me that there is no such thing as 'a' sharia. But we do know how it works in countries which have made a sta…
11 Apr 2012, 11:28
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No dia 10/04/2012, ?s 21:02, Thomas Bitterman <tom at bitterman.net> escreveu: Only someone who thinks sharia has no business in Europe can consider that the mention of sharia in …
10 Apr 2012, 22:41
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No dia 07/04/2012, ?s 08:20, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at clueland.com> escreveu: That's not really saying much, is it? Sounds like someone pretending to be reasonable while actually c…
07 Apr 2012, 11:52
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Rede, rede! Gwern Branwen wrote (22-03-2012 17:10):…
22 Mar 2012, 17:17
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Thank you Marc, and James, and the others, for your accounts. It surely was memorable! In hindsight I should have asked you to tell Gene he has a number of fans in non-english sp…
22 Mar 2012, 16:10
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Oh, but what I wanted to say, before I got carried on with the anti-amazon rant, was that in my experience - a reasonably thorough one - vendors are usually very honest in their …
22 Mar 2012, 16:06
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These days I only get 'used' stuff from the amazon marketplace if 'new' isn't available or the price just doesn't allow - good luck finding a new hardcover of http://www.amazon.…
22 Mar 2012, 16:01
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Antonin Scriabin wrote (16-03-2012 19:11): I have here on my desk an unread copy of MacDonald's The Wise Woman atop* an unread copy of Moorcock's City of the Beast. They haven't …
16 Mar 2012, 19:39
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No dia 16/03/2012, ?s 01:31, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> escreveu: Wasn't MacDonald a good half century older? And he was one of those mollified Presbyterians. Bu…
16 Mar 2012, 02:32
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No dia 16/03/2012, ?s 00:17, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> escreveu: I think the attitude swings to and fro. The Church always views itself as the home of Salvation. I don't t…
16 Mar 2012, 02:21
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Correction: 2 is only OK if it's secularist, otherwise it's shameful, and 1 is only illegitimate if it's christian, otherwise it's at least passable.…
15 Mar 2012, 21:59
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That part of my argument should have used 'dishonest' rather than 'covert'. Gee, that could be because I made no box for it. I made a box for a specific case. If it isn't yours, …
15 Mar 2012, 21:56
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For me, the question is a different one. I see three patterns when it comes to an author's beliefs: - Preaching to the choir: honest but doesn't interest me, even when I'm part …
15 Mar 2012, 21:45
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Regarding this and the hypothetical anti-christian Wolfe (a thought exepriment which I think is by no means new) what I have to say is that, like all demons who turn to be unknow…
15 Mar 2012, 21:19
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Perfect! 'Yahoos' it is. Jeff? No dia 15/03/2012, ?s 02:00, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> escreveu:…
15 Mar 2012, 02:08
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I believe the difference is quite clear. While 'proselytising' authors present their worldview as being superior - which is quite lame and irritating, since the reader has no contr…
15 Mar 2012, 02:06
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No dia 14/03/2012, ?s 22:27, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at clueland.com> escreveu: Why don't we call them yerus, or better yet yarus.…
15 Mar 2012, 01:47
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I think we're dangerously close to being a bunch of old people grumping about things no one else can be bothered to know about. No dia 15/03/2012, ?s 01:01, Craig Brewer <cnbrewe…
15 Mar 2012, 01:33
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DAVID STOCKHOFF wrote (14-03-2012 15:56): It's a legitimate view, but not the only one. We'll check it again in a couple of millennia.…
14 Mar 2012, 16:26
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Craig Brewer wrote (14-03-2012 15:10): Watch the sarcasm...…
14 Mar 2012, 15:26
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No dia 14/03/2012, ?s 09:03, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at clueland.com> escreveu: We're not judging people, we're judging planetary histories. We can't pass verdict on one which hasn't…
14 Mar 2012, 12:12
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No dia 14/03/2012, ?s 03:29, Jeff Wilson <jwilson at clueland.com> escreveu: How many people haven't been troubled until their 20s and then lived a good life? Doesn't matter. The…
14 Mar 2012, 08:33
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No dia 13/03/2012, ?s 20:10, "Gerry Quinn" <gerry at bindweed.com> escreveu: There is no requirement there that each iteration will be better than the preceding one, either in ave…
14 Mar 2012, 03:06
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Gerry Quinn wrote (13-03-2012 15:44): There isn't a requirement that iterations are linearly comparable. Again, in our universe Humanity has *just* reched the stage where knowled…
13 Mar 2012, 16:33
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No dia 12/03/2012, ?s 21:07, Andrew Mason <andrew.mason53 at googlemail.com> escreveu: I certainly don't think an author must make his works work according to their beliefs. At al…
13 Mar 2012, 13:11
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Gerry Quinn wrote (13-03-2012 00:09): I should clarify 'praesens' is latin. Portuguese has: - presente 'present', agora 'now', presentemente 'currently' - presente 'gift', prenda…
13 Mar 2012, 01:06
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I don't know what the two of you are discussing, but the portuguese words for gift and now are the same. I'd be surprised if it was only english and portuguese. Praesens means 'bei…
12 Mar 2012, 21:47
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Gerry Quinn wrote (12-03-2012 13:19): There's dogma and there's meaningfulness.…
12 Mar 2012, 14:15
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I *think* we are mostly in agreement, Daniel. Daniel Petersen wrote (11-03-2012 18:22):…
12 Mar 2012, 10:56
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Marc Aramini wrote (12-03-2012 02:41): It's not a matter of evil existing or not. Evil has even been done in Christ's name, and arguably continues to be. It's a matter of there …
12 Mar 2012, 10:51
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No dia 06/03/2012, ?s 14:46, Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> escreveu: As I've stated boringly to tears, it's the knowledge that Wolfe is a catholic that makes me a…
12 Mar 2012, 02:39
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No dia 11/03/2012, ?s 01:55, Daniel Petersen <danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> escreveu: Yes. Indeed. Gensos starts off tenderly. Though I think a Christian should be able…
11 Mar 2012, 17:42
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No dia 11/03/2012, ?s 17:07, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> escreveu: I suppose you mean 'but without Jesus'. Otherwise, it's no stretch at all to imagine *similar* (they…
11 Mar 2012, 17:29
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No dia 11/03/2012, ?s 11:19, "Gerry Quinn" <gerry at bindweed.com> escreveu: As I've said before - imagine a History mostly like ours with a Jesus mostly like outs, but which wasn…
11 Mar 2012, 13:36
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