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From: David Stockhoff Training is a form of knowledge. Yes. One such tool was an educated and technologically advanced citizenry. - Gerry Quinn…
15 Oct 2011, 20:48
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From: David Stockhoff Surely these things are obvious? We know he had the technology, because the Whorl is loaded with it. It seems obvious that a technology that can produce M…
15 Oct 2011, 10:23
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From: David Stockhoff Then I don’t understand the point of it. Which includes Piaton’s hands. If all had gone well, Piaton’s head would soon have been dispensed with, and the d…
15 Oct 2011, 10:08
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From: Andrew Mason Where does it say that? - Gerry Quinn…
15 Oct 2011, 09:58
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From: David Stockhoff Mamelta and those like her didn’t speak out loud because they had an alternative that they found adequate (presumably the same is true of Apheta, Tzadkiel e…
15 Oct 2011, 09:48
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From: David Stockhoff Because he had access to the technology, and he didn’t use it. In Severian’s time, people certainly would. Of course we don;t know anything about social n…
14 Oct 2011, 22:15
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From: David Stockhoff Aren’t they? Decuman seems to have them. So does Mucor. The Cumaean has. In Typhon’s time, there was a telepathic internet. It’s not bombast: what Typh…
14 Oct 2011, 22:11
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From: David Stockhoff I disagree. Typhon valued technology and knowledge. He wanted to rule a hi-tech interstellar empire, for which purposes an educated citizenry (for example…
14 Oct 2011, 19:02
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From: Lee Berman Actually, Wolfe said Severian was “a Christian figure”. But in any case, Silk’s vision was not of Severian but was a pretty clear reference to Jesus on Palm Sun…
14 Oct 2011, 18:25
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From: Lee Berman Nothing Typhon does or says indicates that he would contemplate such an act. - Gerry Quinn…
14 Oct 2011, 16:53
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From: David Stockhoff Significant to our interpretation of the story. Not really, if psychic powers are reasonably common. I don’t see evidence that Typhon did either of those …
14 Oct 2011, 16:49
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From: Jerry Friedman We have only seen a small portion of the Writings. Jesus existed in the universe of Urth — Silk has a vision of him entering Jerusalem on Palm Sunday. Who …
14 Oct 2011, 16:27
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From: larry miller Interesting idea. My instinct is that Cyriaca’s story relates to a much earlier time, and she makes no mention of Typhon but refers instead to a machine-domin…
14 Oct 2011, 15:02
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From: David Stockhoff Perhaps both are needed for optimal performance. Really, I agree that genetic engineering is the most obvious technological way to go in producing the desir…
14 Oct 2011, 14:54
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From: Sergei SOLOVIEV Didn’t Wolfe himself say somewhere that Typhon got his servants to make up a book of philosophy from eclectic sources, to be the Word of Pas? Or was that s…
14 Oct 2011, 13:25
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From: David Stockhoff But I think we can all agree that Typhon does have great force of personality and will to power. This is the essential thing about him. To fulfil his driv…
14 Oct 2011, 12:53
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From: Antonin Scriabin I also think those are his best. And of course he has written a lot of terrific short stories and novellas. - Gerry Quinn…
13 Oct 2011, 13:22
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From: David Stockhoff But isn’t it you who is promulgating the view that the shared genes are significant? Leadership skills are not a special ability distinct from the abilitie…
12 Oct 2011, 21:32
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From: David Stockhoff Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 3:35 PM To: The Urth Mailing List I don’t mean it is downplayed as such, I just think it is not an element of special sig…
12 Oct 2011, 15:09
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From: David Stockhoff If Silk has genes for leadership, they may well be the same as Typhon’s. The same applies to blond hair, height (if they are of the same height) etc. I do…
12 Oct 2011, 14:53
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From: larry miller It’s not capitalised in my edition (Epiphany of the Long Sun, combining Calde and Exodus, First Orb edition, November 2000). Here it says: ?The prime calcula.…
12 Oct 2011, 14:01
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From: larry miller Are we talking about the same mandragora, i.e. the very ordinary homunculus briefly interrogated by Severian at the end of Citadel of the Autarch? It’s just a…
12 Oct 2011, 13:46
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From: James Wynn I’m comfortable with the concept that the relationships are simply those described in the book: 1. Silk was grown from an engineered embryo bought by Tussah. H…
12 Oct 2011, 13:16
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From: Lee Berman I don’t see any connection between a long-dead emperor and the pretty standard homunculus in a jar that Severian finds in the Autarch’s quarters, along with many…
12 Oct 2011, 13:03
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From: David Stockhoff I consider myself a reasonably alert reader, and I drew no such conclusion. Indeed, I assumed that Typhon’s awareness of the undersea monsters (did he say …
11 Oct 2011, 15:10
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From: David Stockhoff Gene Wolfe, maybe, in Fifth Head of Cerberus? In 5HoC, clones are essentially identical, irrespective of the surrogate mother. In fact, cloning is banned o…
11 Oct 2011, 14:30
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From: Jerry Friedman I don’t read too much into this. Typhon is a powerful and charismatic individual; I wouldn’t be surprised if in the _BotNS_ universe such individuals typica…
11 Oct 2011, 11:40
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From: larry miller Scylla (the sea monster) and Cilinia (Typhon's daughter whose digitised personality was later named Scylla) are different entities. The beans were or symbolis…
10 Oct 2011, 18:16
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Sorry all, just realised my overaggressive spam filter is messing up the threads, I will delete its comments from the titles of future posts. - Gerry Quinn…
10 Oct 2011, 16:44
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From: larry miller But we know Typhon's head was human or humanoid, and that he lived on land when he ruled Urth. I don't think it's tenable to identify him with a sea monster.…
10 Oct 2011, 16:38
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From: Marc Aramini All these are fairly easily explicable without the assumption that Silk is related to Typhon. 1. It was Typhon who wanted an heir. Pas was a potentially imm…
09 Oct 2011, 22:04
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From: Son of Witz Any relation to the Room of Lost Loves belonging to the giant wizard in _Wizard Knight_, I wonder? - Gerry Quinn…
22 Sep 2011, 21:29
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From: Son of Witz Any relation to the Room of Lost Loves belonging to the giant wizard in _Wizard Knight_, I wonder? - Gerry Quinn…
22 Sep 2011, 21:29
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In the first place, it's by no means certain that the Neighbours can dream travel in the same way as Silkhorn + Inhumi, although they may be able to do other things like shift dime…
20 Sep 2011, 13:05
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From: Daniel Petersen As I recall matters, we were told that it was the people who later became known as the Neighbours who boarded the Whorl as it approached their system, and i…
19 Sep 2011, 22:12
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----- Original Message ----- From: Lane Haygood The Hamlet of Swords and Sorcery? I have maybe a blind spot for Moorcock. The Jerry Cornelius and related stuff turned me off, …
12 Aug 2011, 09:02
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----- Original Message ----- Wolfe also pinched that idea! It is one of the devices shown by Gurloes to Thecla before her excruciation, though he mentions that it does not work…
09 Aug 2011, 11:24
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IMO that's not a philosophy that tells you very much, because you have not yet defined inconvenience, and if your definition is restrictive you might end up with a fairly typical…
07 Aug 2011, 08:36
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Is rejoicing in one's villainy really a necessary characteristic of a good villain? It seems hard to avoid cartoonishness in such - the example that springs to mind is the Archi…
05 Aug 2011, 16:01
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I actually started midstream, I think with the Illearth War, and only read Lord Foul's Bane later. Oddly enough, I liked the second trilogy better - I think it seemed more of a …
05 Aug 2011, 13:57
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----- Original Message ----- From: Jerry Friedman To: The Urth Mailing List Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:54 PM Subject: Re: (urth) Round 2 of NPR top 100 sci-fi boo…
05 Aug 2011, 13:44
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----- Original Message ----- From: Robin B. Smith Hi everyone, I'm a Wolfe devotee and a lurking URTH subscriber and I'd be interested in your opinions on a few titles t…
04 Aug 2011, 18:34
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From: James Wynn . Gevers: [Trying again:] Can your readers usefully view The Fifth Head of Cerberus as being set in the same science-fictional universe as New Sun, Long Sun…
04 Aug 2011, 14:31
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I picked some I liked and remembered rather than trying to adhere to objctive standards of quality: Book of the New Sun Thomas Covenant Culture Series Day of the Triffids A Fire …
04 Aug 2011, 14:18
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Gwyneth Jones's Aleutian Trilogy (White Queen, North Wind, Phoenix Cafe) is excellent. - Gerry Quinn ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Petersen To: The Urth Maili…
04 Aug 2011, 14:17
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Some, at least, of the references to lame characters in Tim Powers' books refer to the Fisher King. One can certainly find some echoes of the various Fisher King myths in BotNS, b…
16 Jun 2011, 20:59
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Indeed, the whole idea that the Ship tacks across the photon winds... Apheta: "The worlds are very far apart. If one of our ships goes from one to another as fast as the starligh…
08 Jun 2011, 18:49
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The mirror experiment described won't help in propulsion (it causes accelerated mirrors to emit radiation, which would slow them down). In any case the emissions were a function…
08 Jun 2011, 15:32
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I agree with Roy and Mo. They are on Urth watching a transport descend from the Whorl to pick them up. The sentence in the paragraph about the darkness may be imperfectly formed…
02 Jun 2011, 13:56
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It's still not settled. But here we have the situation of visible stars that are a very short distance away and in the same galactic milieu. If time were going 2-6 times slower…
01 Jun 2011, 16:27
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